Star Trek: Picard - S01E04 "Absolute Candor" (SPOILERS)

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  1. vertigo235

    vertigo235 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Yeah the whole "no money" thing was slowly abandoned as Gene lost control and then pretty much tossed out the window once he died.
     
  2. jlb

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    I do think we might. I’m assuming if we do it will be as a Traveler.


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  3. wprager

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    The pacing of each episode is not the problem, it's that the story is not progressing.

    For us, when the credits started rolling it was, like, "Huh? It's over? But nothing much happened!"
     
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    For the same reason as she hates PIcard. When PIcard handed in his resignation to Star Fleet not expecting his resignation to be accepted Star Fleet withdrew her security clearance and fired her because of her closeness to PIcard.

    Unlike PIcard she did not have a vineyard / inherited wealth safety net.

    She self-medicates (she is a drug addict of long standing).
     
  5. wprager

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    I find that when "Picard" is reading his lines the pacing is a bit awkward, like he's having difficulty speaking. I thought it was agev related.

    But when he was reading to Elnor from a book (The Three Musketeers) the pacing was very normal.

    Is he having difficulty remembering his lines? They might want to get some cue cards.
     
  6. vertigo235

    vertigo235 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Yeah I've seen the differences in some scenes too, maybe he just has good days and bad days.
     
  7. Amnesia

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    Roddenberry died in 1991 and the "no money" thing was explicitly mentioned in 1996's Star Trek: First Contact...
     
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    Its gotta be written that way. Its only been a couple of years since Blunt Talk wrapped and he wasnt that way through that series.
     
  9. Rob Helmerichs

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    Well, you never know...age-related issues can come on pretty quickly.

    I haven't noticed any pattern to the awkward scenes that would suggest they are deliberate...in fact, it's striking to me how old he seems both in the "current" scenes and the scenes from 14 years ago, when you'd think they'd do something to make him look and act younger in the flashbacks.
     
  10. KungFuCow

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    There is an interview with him on Youtube from three weeks ago. Take a look and judge for yourself. Its a CBS This Morning interview.

    Maybe hes struggling with his lines and he does sound a little older but hes very articulate in the interview.
     
  11. vertigo235

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    Yeah because the writers have been very consistent about everything in Star Trek, especially from TV to Movies.
     
  12. vertigo235

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    Yeah I've seen him seem to struggle in interviews too, like he gets stumbled up a little.

    No big deal, the man is old, I think he's doing great.
     
  13. ej42137

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    To be fair, his character is suffering from a terminal brain disease, and has admitted to experiencing its symptoms.
     
  14. Rob Helmerichs

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    But he's been suffering from it for 14 years?
     
  15. JYoung

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    Did you miss Deep Space Nine and it's multi-seasonal arcs?

    If you're saying that Kurtzman and company have been inconsistent, I would tend to agree.
     
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  16. JYoung

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    Stewart was on James Corden last night as well.
    I haven't watched it yet but Stewart seemed fine during his Colbert appearance the other week.
     
  17. cwerdna

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    Awhile back I checked on his age via Patrick Stewart - IMDb. He's 79 now, turning 80 in July.

    It blows me away that from refreshing my memory at Star Trek: The Next Generation about the TNG dates, that he was 47 when TNG first came on. By the time the TNG show ended, he was nearly 54.
     
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  18. Rob Helmerichs

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    I'm still blown away that William Hartnell (the First Doctor) was only 55 when he started Doctor Who.
     
  19. trainman

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    Everyone can't live in a mansion. Presumably anyone can get the 24th-century equivalent of public housing (e.g., a small apartment in some high-rise in some city), but Raffi apparently didn't want to live anywhere near anyone. But if you have extra wealth from selling a scarce good -- say, wine -- you can have a better living situation.
     
  20. Amnesia

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    Except that they are supposedly living in a post-scarcity society. You can, I imagine, just replicate some Chateau Picard whenever you want.
     

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