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Star Trek Discovery S01E04 "The Butcher's Knife Cares Not For The Lamb's Cry" OAD 10/08/2017

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by mrdbdigital, Oct 9, 2017.

  1. cheesesteak

    cheesesteak Meh. TCF Club

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    It's annoying but aren't most fake tv and movie languages spoken this way? I've seen enough shows with magic in them and Latin is spoken haltingly too.
     
  2. Saturn_V

    Saturn_V Now with flavor!

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    Game of Thrones isn't. The Valyrian used in the show isn't halting at all. And it's not causing fits of discomfort like Klingonese scenes in Discovery are.
     
  3. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    And Klingon in the Sta Trek movies is spoken fluently.

    I don't know if the actors aren't up to it, if they haven't been given time to prepare, or if their prosthetics are interfering. But whatever the reason, their speech patterns are jarringly unnatural.
     
  4. martinp13

    martinp13 YHTBMABIITY

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    I don't think the tardigrade was an accident. The "harness" it wore in the engineering cube came from the Glenn, so I think it was always supposed to be a part of the spore drive, functioning I think as the "star atlas".
     
  5. Saturn_V

    Saturn_V Now with flavor!

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    An even-handed review of "The Butcher's Knife"
     
  6. Cainebj

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    Anthony Rapp starred in the original cast of RENT on Broadway 20 years ago and reprised his role in the movie. I know him from that - he hasn't done much in the way of mainstream stuff since - so I am partially just happy to see he got the role and I am enjoying his performance.
     
  7. Rob Helmerichs

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    I think it was an accident...the Glenn "found" it (probably accidentally blew it up from microscopic size), realized its connection to the spore network, and harnessed its abilities. But since nobody knows where it came from (presumably any clues to its origins went down with the Glenn), they will be unable to replace it.
     
  8. Allanon

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    I would speculate that they encountered the tardigrade when collecting spores from a planet, and like Michael, noticed that it had a connection with the spores and they ran tests and created equipment to harness it's navigation skills. Also, I don't think the tardigrade was ever a microscopic being, Michael just compared it to a relative on earth that happens to be microscopic.
     
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  9. robojerk

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    I see the tardigrade escaping using the spores to travel far, far away.



    Only to be captured by the borg (just kidding).
     
  10. Cainebj

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    I have to say - I am kindof waiting for the borg to show up - maybe that's season 2 :)
     
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  11. Allanon

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    I'm waiting for Q to show up and knock their technology back a few centuries.
     
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  12. Topher5000

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    I'm having a problem with this show & maybe it's because I missed ep. 3.
    So, they have a ship that can instantly jump anywhere in the universe & it's powered by fungi???
    And it's steered by a giant microbe, which talks to the fungi & has a super-correct star map in it's head???
    Did something happen in ep. 3 that makes this make sense?
    And doesn't this show take place around 10 years before Kirk? The tech, while cool, is way beyond the TOS Enterprise, or the JJ Enterprise.
    I also think the touch-screen pilot's console wouldn't be too reliable. Over at avsforums.com, everyone complains about touch-screen remotes being hard to use in the dark. What happens when the helmsman is rotating the speed counterclockwise & the ship gets jostled, she misses by an inch & ejects the mushroom core?
    I'll keep watching though, since the SFX is cool.
     
  13. cwerdna

    cwerdna Proud Tivolutionary

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    Yes. Go back and watch ep 3.

    The steering by giant microbe and all that was only discovered in ep 4 though.
     
  14. Topher5000

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    My girlfriend cancelled the recording of ep. 3 so that's why I missed it. I'll have to have it magically appear.
     
  15. wprager

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    "There's no such thing as magic!"
    -- Uncle Vernon
     
  16. robojerk

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    I really dont get the people who hate the tech being better than TOS.

    I mean look at the image below. It looks like crap. Yeah it made sense to people in the 1960's imagining future tech, but honestly you would alienate anyone who wasn't around during TOS run if you tried to duplicate the image below on Discovery because of silly nostalgia.
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    TOS had it's time and place. You're trying to bring back the past, which imagined a future, that looks historic in the present.
     
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  17. Allanon

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    I don't mind them updating the look, but using hologram communication when TNG didn't even have that? And, their communicators, teleporters, and medical capabilities are way beyond TOS. They can make everything look cool but they shouldn't be able to do things that TOS couldn't.
     
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  18. Thom

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    I know, I know...the spores are a widely dispersed hive intelligence and Star Fleet can't be a party to abusing/misusing an intelligent species...
     
  19. cwerdna

    cwerdna Proud Tivolutionary

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    Record? Are you in Canada or something?
     
  20. JYoung

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    I've been biting my tongue a lot here but I'm finding myself agreeing with you concerning the writing.
    Especially in this episode.

    Because it makes no sense that T'Kuvma's ship would just be sitting there for six months.
    Yes, I realize that there's a war going on but considering the technology on the ship (the tech that Kol coveted), you'd think that Starfleet or the Klingons would have someone to to at minimum, try and retrieve it.

    And Voq just sitting around for six months while the situation grows more and more dire (to the point of eating Georgiou's corpse :eek: ) because he wants to maintain tech purity?
    What's more honorable?
    Dying in battle or just wasting away?
    (I also agree that the Klingon scenes caused choppy pacing in the episode.)

    Then there's the spore drive.
    In addition to Lorca's actions at the colony making no sense, the whole "spinning ship business" just drove me nuts.
    I mean I was wondering if I was watching Star Trek: Transformers with the way the parts of the ship were dervishing around.
    (And if Discovery meets up with four more vessels of it's class, do they link up to form Voltron or the Megazord?)

    But I agree that Spore Drive will likely be gone after the next episode.
     

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