Star Trek Discovery S01E04 "The Butcher's Knife Cares Not For The Lamb's Cry" OAD 10/08/2017

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  1. robojerk

    robojerk Well-Known Member

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    They said "the ship crashed into an undetectable Hawking radiation firewall when it exited from the mycelial plane.

    As a result, all the biologicals on board spun out."
     
  2. vertigo235

    vertigo235 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Yes, as I said technobabble
     
  3. IndyJones1023

    IndyJones1023 Auteur

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    Not sure I'm liking the direction of the series so far. We're to believe that spores can instantly teleport a ship anywhere in the universe? And we need a microscopic creature blown up a trillion percent to guide us? How did we communicate with it to say "we need to go right here exactly."?

    And the Klingon ship was derelict for 6 months? No other ships came to rescue?

    Lots of weird writing decisions at this point.
     
  4. mrdbdigital

    mrdbdigital The TBS Archives TCF Club

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    The Klingon's were all at home, practicing their pronunciation. :)
     
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  5. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    I've seen no evidence of any practice on their part... :D
     
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  6. wprager

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    Was it said on the show that was a microscopic creature grown to many orders of magnitude of its size?

    Anyone catch the flirting between Voq and the Vulcan lady? Mostly directed one way (Voq spent too much of his youth reading scripture and practicing burning his hand). ”Shall we uncouple?”
     
  7. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    I don't think it was stated as a fact, but it was strongly implied from Michael's observations...
    Vulcan lady?!? Holy crap, did I miss that one! She's not a Klingon?
     
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  8. IndyJones1023

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    Man, the more I think about this episode the worse it gets.

    I really hate the spore drive concept. They can now pop in anywhere in the galaxy? So stupid. Now it's science-fantasy, not science-fiction. And they can't control where they wind up, so they try to get to the colony under attack anyway? Pretty stupid.

    And when they get a deus ex machina moment (the tardigrade) the plan is to pop in, take damage, wait for the Klingons to get close, then pop out and leave behind some bombs? They left and didn't even know if they saved the colonists. They offered no aid for the survivors.

    Really crappy writing. I hope it improves.
     
  9. martinp13

    martinp13 Roller coaster addict :)

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    I believe they said the tardigrade's closest relative or most similar was the microscopic creatures.
     
  10. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    It's all science fantasy. And all sounds crazy until someone actually does it in real life or proves it in real life.
     
  11. martinp13

    martinp13 Roller coaster addict :)

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    I think they lose the tardigrade in an episode or two... I'm sure SPETA gets involved. :) I agree with you that it's too much of a deus ex machina (more than Wesley).
     
  12. Gunnyman

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    If the spore drive was a thing, Voyager wouldn't have been trapped in the Delta Quadrant right?

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
     
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  13. Cainebj

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    Me too - The Klingons in this series are a bunch of gas bags.

    Anthony Rapp is great as the science guy...
    and I am LOVING Jason Isaacs.
     
  14. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    But it only seems to work with the tardigrade, which seems to have been an accident. Once their tardigrade is gone (and it will be!), then the spore drive is just a really cool idea that can't be implemented.
     
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  15. TIVOSciolist

    TIVOSciolist Bye to High Society

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    The science guy has been enjoyable so far but his sarcasm may start to get old pretty soon. I can't see the captain putting up with it much longer.

    The spores are an interesting idea for now. As they do not exist in the future Star Trek timeline, I am expecting that some technical glitch will arise later that will prevent universal spore travel in the future.
     
  16. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    It only seems to work with the tardigrade, which seems to have been an accident. Once their tardigrade is gone (and it will be!), then the spore drive is just a really cool idea that can't be implemented.
     
  17. cwerdna

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    That was pretty funny they threw in a reference to Elon Musk. It'd be even funnier if he gets an actual cameo on the show.
     
  18. cheesesteak

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    I want the science guy to get punched in the face every time he opens his mouth.

    Seems odd that the Glenn would keep their giant tardigrade inspired line of research from the Discovery.

    I know she's the protagonist but it'd be nice if somebody on the ship other than Michael actually did something useful.

    The Klingons need to sign up for English courses in Rosetta Stone, stat!
     
  19. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    Or even Klingon courses! :D

    I don't mind the subtitles. I just hate the slow, awkward, phonetic phrasing.
     
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  20. pgogborn

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    Seems to me keeping the Tardigrade onboard could be unethical, breach the sort of conventions that Captain Lorca not entirely convincingly implied that he does not breach in order to win a war.
     

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