SSD in Bolt OTA...

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by bur1196, Feb 12, 2019.

  1. bur1196

    bur1196 New Member

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    Has anybody successfully installed a SSD in the Bolt OTA and if so, what SSD did you use and what steps were taken to accomplish this? I have tried two different SSDs and both get stuck at the starting up screen.
     
  2. ke3ju

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    I wouldn't recommend it anyway. SSD HDs have a very finite write cycle, meaning you can only over-write data a few hundred times before the sector is dead. It's why they're not used in servers.
     
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  3. bur1196

    bur1196 New Member

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    I appreciate the concern but I am not looking for why I shouldn't do it...
     
  4. stile99

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    *looks at last reply, then goes to pop some corn*

    This is going to be a hell of a show.
     
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  5. JoeKustra

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    Good for at least 10 pages. Too bad there's no way to search the forum for SSD. (993 posts, 155 in Bolt forum).
     
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  6. bur1196

    bur1196 New Member

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    I did search but nothing that really answers the question especially with the latest update and specifically the Bolt OTA (not sure if that matters since they are pretty much the same minus the cable card hardware)...
     
  7. schatham

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    Never mind.
     
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  8. bur1196

    bur1196 New Member

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    I actually tried a smaller one and one that is the same size (1TB). I did try the DVRBars copy process and it did not work. How should it be formatted?
     
  9. ggieseke

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    For 3TB or less, just let the Bolt auto-format it. The Full backup mode in DvrBARS should work if all you want to do is xerox the drive and the source drive is 2TB or less, but it was designed for Series 1 through Series 4 (Premiere) TiVos. Roamios and Bolts are completely different critters, so it won't even recognize them as TiVo drives in the Truncated or Modified backup modes.

    Several recent posts seem to indicate that the auto-format process on Bolts running the latest version of Hydra is screwed up, so you may have to use the factory drive and revert to the older TE3 interface before attempting to install the new drive.

    FWIW, I agree that using SSDs in a TiVo is a bad idea but it's your money. I would expect about a one year lifespan with a 4-tuner model like the OTA, and since the OS and database is in flash memory on the motherboard it won't run any faster than a platter drive.
     
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  10. bur1196

    bur1196 New Member

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    Thank you for the reply. I think my problem is the Hydra version and its not working with the new drive. What is the easiest way to get the old TE3 version working on the new drive (my original drive has Hydra). I am assuming then it will work as long as I don't upgrade/update to Hydra?
     
  11. mdavej

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    OS isn't on the drive. Can you temporarily find another hard drive and use long enough to downgrade? Then you can put in the SSD and let Tivo format it, and a year or two from now you can do the same thing again with an new SSD.
     
  12. bur1196

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    So if I understood correctly, I need to find another similar non-SSD drive, downgrade (not exactly sure how yet) to the old version, once that happens, then I can put the ssd in (let it format), and then I should be good. After that would upgrading from the old version to Hydra break the drive?
     
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  14. mdavej

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    My quick search yielded no reports of anybody successfully running TE4 on a Bolt with an SSD. So I'd say odds of breaking it right now are pretty high.
     
  15. ggieseke

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    Put the original drive in and run the downgrade. Once the motherboard is on TE3 it should be able to format the new drive successfully.
     
  16. wtherrell

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    Friends don't let friends SSD their Tivo.
     
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    Yes, they are enabling bad behavior.
     
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  18. aspexil

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    Interesting statement. I was just with a customer that had to switch their VMware images from SAN to local flash drives to get good performance because they were too lazy to investigate their SAN issues. Working with Flash Devices I don't know how the flash drives work but I'm also familiar with a few other cloud environments where the database storage will switch to flash if they need more performance.
     
  19. HerronScott

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    Yes they are used with servers and SAN's?

    Scott
     
  20. mdavej

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    I also use SSDs in servers and all my PCs. But they don't have anywhere near the number of write cycles a Tivo has. And there is virtually no performance benefit in a Tivo. Setting a pile of cash on fire would have the same net effect.
     

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