Speculation: TiVo announces Series 5 Premiere at 2012 CES

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by sbiller, Jun 7, 2011.

  1. daveak

    daveak Series 3 Novice

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    The new 'high end' TiVo could have 4 tuners and a 3TB drive and be able to stream HD to non-TiVo CE equipment, even certain TVs with an installed 'TiVo App'. That would be great.
     
  2. aaronwt

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    Don't they support up to six tuners?
     
  3. innocentfreak

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    Yeah though some tuning adapters only support 2 streams currently with support for 4 coming.
     
  4. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    How about they put wifi into the next model? It's a very basic thing that Tivo has been lacking for years.
     
  5. Joe01880

    Joe01880 I love my TiVo

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    This might be a huge taboo and run against the TiVo Business plan but I'm gonna ask.
    What about TiVo integration with TV's. TiVo would become a selling point to TV manufactures. The SUX-3D3000, with TiVo.
    Service still being a requirement for TiVo activation. TiVo gets paid on one end, then the other as well.
     
  6. innocentfreak

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    TiVo previously announced with their partnership with Best Buy that they would be doing something along those lines with the Insignia brand TV line.

    Of course we haven't seen anything since though it would be a BB product so up to them to announce or unveil it.
     
  7. innocentfreak

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  8. sbiller

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  9. aaronwt

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    Here is the press release

     
  10. JACKASTOR

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    you do realize cable cards are two way capable. The only reason they dont is that tivo doesnt support that, and the cable companis had it mandated that way for the equipment.

    peace
     
  11. Krandor

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    Wouldn't for me. I have 3 TiVos but I have them in 3 different locations in the house and that wouldn't change. If they put a 4-tuner box out I would definitely upgrade one of mine to it and maybe shift programs around, but still would keep 3 TiVos.

    I still want some kind of single to-do list accross multiple TiVos.
     
  12. atmuscarella

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    The problem is more that just 2 way communications. Needing to rent the cable cards, pay for truck rolls, not working with Satellite, needing tuning adapters, being locked out of VOD services etc. are some of the numerous problems with cable cards.

    A software solution that works with all forms of pay TV and does not have any additional monthly rental costs or require any hardware dongles is completely different then cable cards and the only way that stand alone DVRs can become anything but a niche market.

    Thanks,
     
  13. JACKASTOR

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    Obviously you don't understand. The problem is not nor ever will be cable cards. They are able to handle all communication if it's there in the host. Again and I cannot stress it enough, cable companies mandated limitations to the host equipment. This is due largely to greed. If TiVo was allowed to build in the protocals to the communication then revenue streams would go down. Truck rolls etc is just nonsense to make you not want to use other equipment. The thinking is if it is inconvenient to you then you are less likely to do it. However the techs do nothing for you other them to waste your time much like Kramer portrayed on Seinfeld. What the tech does is deliver your card/equipment and exposes you to the obnoxious site of his butt crack all
    For a small fee of 75$ or whatever they charge. The reality if it is you take the serial numbers Mac address etc and a person on the other end of a phone enters it into a software program that sends your information to authorize it. Total actual time to do it is 30 seconds and however
    Long it takes to hit the enter key. It's totally baffling how people think things are and no matter what that's the truth no matter how wrong they are. You have to do real research people and move to empowerment and not blind obedience to gobbly gook.
     
  14. atmuscarella

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    Not that I disagree with what you posted but there is no chance the consumer will get a what we want and what I believe the legislation was intend to provide us until cable cards are replaced with a new system. If the cable and sat companies find away to game the new system is another matter. What we know for sure is that cable cards will be the way they are until they are replaced.

    Thanks,
     
  15. orangeboy

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    A point I disagree with:
    How so? Hardware is a loss-leader for the cable company AND TiVo. The bread and butter is the service fees. Delivering VOD and PPV to a TiVo DVR would relieve the cable company of the hardware costs, while still getting paid for only delivering the bits and bytes the content. I see revenue actually going up (for the cable companies) in that case.
     
  16. Krandor

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    The cable companies want to control the end user experience and for that they need control of the hardware. If they let you put on whatever hardware you want, they cannot control your experience anymore.
     
  17. sbiller

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  18. lpwcomp

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    While 4 tuners is usually enough for me, personally I dislike the idea of having another single point of failure.
     

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