Spectrum requires cablebox

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  1. Jan 2, 2018 #81 of 161
    m.s

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    When people simply say "Spectrum," it doesn't mean much. Spectrum is simply branding for conglomeration of (previously) different cablecos, with Charter in the lead, TWC and Bright House being recent acquisitions. The different systems are still, for the most part, different. So what TWC Spectrum does/doesn't do can be very different than what Charter Spectrum does/doesn't do.

    I've had Charter for years, and there's never been a requirement to have one of their boxes, and no problem getting Cablecards for the TiVos I've had. And, although it's sometimes taken them an hour or two get a Cablecard activated, it's always worked in the end.
     
  2. Jan 3, 2018 #82 of 161
    realityboy

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    It was never an issue with TWC either. Have you made any plan changes recently? The Spectrum plans added in former TWC areas apparently require the salespeople to add a box. If they didn’t change the plans in former Charter areas, you may not have any problems there. I’m not sure how Charter areas handled the transition, but with TWC areas, customers have to call to switch to Spectrum or remain on their grandfathered TWC plans.
     
  3. Jan 3, 2018 #83 of 161
    dlfl

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    Hmmm.... I'm in the Dayton area on Spectrum, formerly TWC. I switched to a new Spectrum plan about a year ago and they didn't try to force a box on me. They did force their modem on me, although I had been furnishing my own. Their internet plans all provide a modem and will not credit you for using your own. I'm not complaining because they have recently gone to 100/10 Mbps and my owned modem would not have handled that. They claim their plans will not do the automatic 30% rate increase every year (like the TWC plans did -- requiring you to call in, threaten to quit, get a new "promotional" plan). We will see.
     
  4. Jan 3, 2018 #84 of 161
    tivoknucklehead

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    just changed my Spectrum service from my old grandfathered Bright House service. was paying 216/ mo for cable, HBO, Showtime, 2 tuning adapters, two cable cards and 200 MBPS internet.
    Spectrum Silver gets me all that plus Cinemax and 400 MBPS Ultra internet for $196 /mo

    happy camper here in Orlando
    did require a new cable modem / router from Arris
     
  5. Jan 3, 2018 #85 of 161
    realityboy

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    Good to know. I’m in Columbus. I’m guessing it’s an issue with their salespeople not being familiar with cablecards and not understanding how they work or how to order a package using them instead of the box. It took a second call just to get a salesperson that would let me use a cablecard at all, and she wasn’t sure it would work.
     
  6. Jan 3, 2018 #86 of 161
    jwall29

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    Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but....If you already have a TiVo with a cable card set up with Spectrum and you just don't want a Spectrum box in your bedroom here is what you do.

    You bring them the box and tell them you don't use a TV in your bedroom. The more you mention about any kind of TiVo mini or anything other then their box you are going to confuse the **** out them.

    You simply say "I don't watch TV in my bedroom" and then hook up the mini yourself...They will never know!
     
  7. Jan 4, 2018 #87 of 161
    dlfl

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    True. They have no way to detect you're using a mini, so why confuse them by mentioning it?
     
  8. Feb 15, 2018 #88 of 161
    Rogerj

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    I'm with Spectrum and initially they gave me a digital converter box for free...then it was $3.99 a month and went up to $4.99 a month...then to $5.99. Then this month to $6.99. 75% increase in less then a year. If I get a digital TV can I buy a cable box from Motorola and buy a M-card? Tired of pay equipment fees.
     
  9. Feb 15, 2018 #89 of 161
    igirl

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    Do you have a Tivo? All you need is a cablecard and a tuning adapter. Tuning adapters are free and cablecards are like $2.
     
  10. Feb 15, 2018 #90 of 161
    wmcbrine

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    No, but you could buy a TiVo, and rent (not buy, sorry) an M-card.
     
  11. Feb 15, 2018 #91 of 161
    Rogerj

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    No, I don't have a Tivo.
     
  12. Feb 15, 2018 #92 of 161
    rdrrepair

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    I once told TWC that I had a TiVo and a couple of mini's and was then told I would be charged an "access fee" for each outlet. After being transferred to another department the new rep asked, "How may I help you?"

    I asked if this was the retention department and was transferred again. Hung up after that. A year goes by rates increase again and dropped them for FIOS. With FIOS there are no tuning adapters so reliability in my recordings hasn't been an issue.

    FIOS seems to have their act together. No CableCARD issues or forced box fees. CableCARD activation via self install and competent reps. I'd be hard pressed to go back to them now. But FIOS doesn't know that so my rates are decent. I've got the triple play package and my CableCARD fees.

    Having more than one franchise your area helps. When it was just TWC there was no effort. Once FIOS made headway here TWC had a retention booth inside their lobby. Comical best described it. I walked in carrying my new bright red Verizon bag with all of theirratcrap and turned it all in.

    Funny how once they saw me standing in their lobby with that bag I didn't have to wait. They tried to keep me and offered a better rate that FIOS topped once again.
     
  13. Feb 15, 2018 #93 of 161
    Rogerj

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    Verizen and all the other Cell phone carriers are getting ready to implement their 5G networks which will offer broadband internet/video services at speeds that exceeds cable ISP speeds. I can't wait to give Spectrum the finger.
     
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  14. Feb 15, 2018 #94 of 161
    dstoffa

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    If you are also a Spectrum Internet Customer, you can use the app on SOME Samsung SmartTVs, or use the Spectrum Streaming Channel on a Roku (which can attached to any TV) to avoid renting a box from the cable company. You must be on your home LAN. WiFi Rokus cost about $50. RJ-45 hard-wired ethernet Rokus are just under $100, and are recommended.
     
  15. Feb 15, 2018 #95 of 161
    Rogerj

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    I'm getting ready to buy a new flat screen TV to replace a ancient analog one I've had for years; possible a Samsung. Just want to stop paying equipment feeds that are always going up.
     
  16. Feb 15, 2018 #96 of 161
    mdavej

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    Realize you're going to have to spend at least $400 on a no-fees Tivo solution (that's equal to about 5 years' worth of $6.99/month) . You may want to consider dumping cable TV altogether and replacing with an OTT service like DirecTV NOW, Sling TV, Philo, Youtube TV, etc., to avoid equipment fees and high up front costs altogether.
     
  17. Feb 16, 2018 #97 of 161
    tenthplanet

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    Understand if you do this, any dvr functions will be in the cloud and you have no hardware dvr. Make sure you're good with this if you go this route.
     
  18. Feb 16, 2018 #98 of 161
    dstoffa

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    Not all models of Samsung Smart TV's DO NOT support the Spectrum App...
    Appstore Compatible - Spectrum TV G00009313465 | Samsung TV & Blu-ray Apps

    A Roku is guaranteed to work with any TV you can connect to it.
     
  19. Feb 22, 2018 #99 of 161
    Rogerj

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    I'm considering all my options. A cable box with an M-Card and DVR capabilities will cost $175. Hard part would be getting spectrum to program the card. Also I bought a new 40" smart TV to replace my old 28 tube tv this week....works great and did some research to see what TV stations are near me and all the major networks (NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, CW) are all @14 miles from me. Bought an antenna and did a channel scan and I was able to pick up 21 channels including all the major networks (NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, CW)....every channel comes in perfectly!... so strongly considering dropping cable when the promotion deal expires in a few months. No fees solution would cost me $0..drop cable altogether and I'd still get about the same number of channels and every major network.
     
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