Sort Tivo Suggestions according to date

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  1. megory

    megory Advanced TiVoOligan

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    I'd love it if TiVo suggestions were sorted according to date and if we were able to change the sort to alphabetical.

    Right now, they are sorted haphazardly. At least, I cannot find any pattern.
     
  2. TiVoEvan74

    TiVoEvan74 Active Member

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    Agree 100%! It would be helpful; in fact, they should show up in folders, too, if the user wants it!
     
  3. windracer

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    If you turn off Groups in your NPL (press 2 on your remote), the Suggestions will sort with the rest of your recordings (either alphabetical or by date). If Groups are on, your Suggestions folder should be sorted by date descending (at least, mine are).
     
  4. megory

    megory Advanced TiVoOligan

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    Thanks for the ideas sailor! I tried variations of your recommendations:

    1. I started with the groups turned off, but turned them back on, and then checked suggestions, and they are still random (to my eye. I'm sure TiVo has a reason)

    2. Then, I returned to NPL, turned groups off, and sorted alphabetically. No change in suggestions. Still random.

    3. Returned to NPL, groups still off, sort by date. Which is where I started.

    Nope, still random in Suggestions.

    It was worth a try though. Thanks.

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  5. windracer

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    (I'm not a sailor :) but greetings to a fellow Pinellas county resident).

    That's weird ... I checked all three of my TiVos and the Suggestions on all of them (Groups on) are sorted by date descending.

    So wait, with groups off, your Suggestions didn't sort in with the normal recordings?

    What model/software version do you have?
     
  6. megory

    megory Advanced TiVoOligan

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    :) PCR!

    Confirm! Went through the whole megillah again. Still random. (I figured this was default -- and don't remember from "de olde days" of Sony Series I&II.

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  7. megazone

    megazone Hardcore TiVo Geek

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    That's really, really bizarre - with groups on Suggestions are always reverse date order (newest at the top of the group). With groups off when you sort by date, Suggestions are reverse date order - listed after the user requested recordings. If you sort by alpha they're alphabetical mixed with the user recordings. I don't think I've ever seen something else.
     
  8. Arcady

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    My suggestions are all in order by date. And they do show up in folders on the main level if the same show (on another channel) has a Season Pass. This is on my Series3, Series2, and even my old DirecTiVo boxes.
     
  9. megory

    megory Advanced TiVoOligan

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    Hmmmm. Thanks for the input! I had no idea it was bizarre and thought it was the norm.

    Well, I apologize for posting as a suggestion instead of for help! In fact, I'll ask the moderator to move this thread to Tivo Help Center. I'm wondering if there's an old backdoor code that might fix this on my apparently unique TiVo,

    After last weekend, I thought perhaps it would sort itself out. But this is the date order (All August, natch)
    20
    19
    24
    20
    19
    22
    21
    20
    21
    20
    24
    20
    19
    21 . . . etc.

    Among those are several of the same date.

    I have checked every day this week, and there has been no change.

    Thanks for the input.

    And perhaps there could be a control so people could sort by alphabet or date according to their preference, and for those of us whose suggestions are in disorder <g>
     
  10. megazone

    megazone Hardcore TiVo Geek

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    And that's with groups on, right? And it isn't somehow sorting alphabetically you said, right?
     
  11. megory

    megory Advanced TiVoOligan

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    Groups? Yes, today and yesterday, but usually not.

    No sorting by date nor alphabetical (R D G S W S M V E A H S R C A)
     
  12. Jonathan_S

    Jonathan_S Well-Known Member

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    Odd. That's the kind of scramble I was used to seeing from my series 1 when I used the SORT code and sorted by expiration date. (The suggestions algorithm seems to pick expiration dates based on something; probably a weighting system. They don't stick to the normal 48 hour expiration period that normal recordings have)

    But you talked about groups being enabled, so that makes your TiVo a series 2, and those don't support sort by expiration date.
     
  13. megory

    megory Advanced TiVoOligan

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    Jonathan, when you talk about expiration dates, I'm not sure we're on the same page. All is fine with my Now Playing List.

    Some have suggested that the organization of the NPL affects the sorting of the Suggestions..

    The apparently unique peculiarity of my Suggestions is there is no discernible pattern on mine.





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  14. ebeckhusen

    ebeckhusen New Member

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    Okay, this might be a dumb question, but are you talking about the suggestions under "Find Programs" or the Suggestions in the now playing list? Because my suggestions under "Find Programs" works as you described, haphazardly, but the other suggestions folder is sorted by date.
     
  15. megory

    megory Advanced TiVoOligan

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    Hmm. Ya got me here. AFAICR, I've never seen a suggestions list in my NPL. Should there be one? What would it do if I did have one? Now I'm really curious!

    The only Suggestions List I know of, is TiVo Suggestions as a sub category of Find Programs.
     
  16. mchips

    mchips TiVo Fanatic

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    Not a dumb question at all... you hit the nail on the head, so to speak...

    Notice in his example of how they're sorted, he's using future dates, so he's clearly talking about Suggestions that have not yet recorded, so he must be looking at the TiVo Suggestions under Find Programs, rather than the NPL...

    Thus, this thread should probably now be moved back to suggestions/feature request... :)

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    Looks like the OP beat me to the punch, and confirmed he is looking under Find Programs... guess it took me too long to compose/submit my reply before his...
     
  17. mchips

    mchips TiVo Fanatic

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    If you want your TiVo(s) to automatically record the TiVo Suggestions, you need to be sure you have it turned on:

    Messages & Settings > Settings > Recording > TiVo Suggestions > Yes, record when there's space

    Note if your SPs keep your NPL full, then no Suggestions will be recorded, as a TiVo Suggestion never overrides a recording that you requested, whether manual or by SP, and will never delete a recording from your NPL to make room for a Suggestion, unless it's in your Recently Deleted folder.
     
  18. megory

    megory Advanced TiVoOligan

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    FWIW, let me reiterate, my interest is in sorting TiVo Suggestions (yes, under FIND <g>) according to date.

    Thanks to all!
     
  19. Jonathan_S

    Jonathan_S Well-Known Member

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    Yep, we weren't on the same page.
    I never really look at the suggestions page, so I assumed (incorrectly) that you were talking about sorting of already recorded suggestions in the now playing list.

    Yeah, on the Suggestions page they are sorted by some weird, unknown, algorithm.
     
  20. mchips

    mchips TiVo Fanatic

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    It looks like he decided to continue this discussion in another thread:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=363057

    While the OP may see these as two separate questions, they are related, and very well could have been, and actually were, answered here.

    But I'll just let those who respond to his other thread explain the difference further between TiVo Suggestion under Find Programs, and TiVo Suggestions under the NPL, since he must not want it discussed in this thread.

    :confused:

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    Sorry, but I guess I'm thinking that if you didn't understand what we were saying, you could have just asked, and we would have clarified it further, instead of creating another thread (which is typically frowned upon, when the issue is either the same, or closely related)... It's like you just went and created another thread to ask us what we're talking about here, instead of just asking us here... again, sorry, but this just blew me away...
     

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