Soon Plex will have it all.

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  1. Jan 29, 2020 #61 of 146
    Bigg

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    Kodi is notorious for pirated streaming services. Plex is bring your own video, so it's on the user at that point to determine if it's legal or not.

    They show up just fine, and if you have multiple copies, it even offers you the choice of which one to use.
     
  2. Jan 29, 2020 #62 of 146
    foghorn2

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    But how did those HD versions of studio Movies get into your plex server?
     
  3. Jan 29, 2020 #63 of 146
    Tony_T

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    I purchase a BluRay and then rip it and add it to my Plex server
    ...and now is where you’re going to tell me that’s illegal ;)
     
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  4. Jan 29, 2020 #64 of 146
    foghorn2

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    Thats not for me to determine, but are all files on Plex servers ripped from Blu-Ray and those disks are in possession of the server owner and not somewhere else?

    The hypocrisy of accusing Kodi of allowing pirates and stating Plex does not is in clear view here.

    If plex really does not want pirated stuff streaming from their platform, they need to provide the studios with all your server data and let them determine whats legal ;)

    They are already in bed with some of them anyway.
     
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  5. Jan 29, 2020 #65 of 146
    fyodor

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    I think that his point is that the firetv sticks allow for alot of hacking and sideloading android apps and other kinds of flexibility. I think that some people really value those features. That being said, they're not important to most people and Roku IMNAAHO provides the best and most reliable streaming platform with the strongest set of prepared apps.

     
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  6. Jan 29, 2020 #66 of 146
    Tony_T

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    I’m the only one who has access to my Plex server.
    I use it for the convenience of not having to insert the Blu-ray into my DVD player.
     
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  7. Jan 29, 2020 #67 of 146
    foghorn2

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    Im starting to wonder how many savvy TiVo users are using Plex to stream decoded and re-encoded TiVo files- movies recorded from cable and erroneously the copy flag was not set correctly.

    Just wondering...
     
  8. Jan 29, 2020 #68 of 146
    Bigg

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    Torrents. Plex itself is legal, what I do with it... is what I do with it.

    Huh? The copy flag is only supposed to be set on HBO and other premiums that require it by contract. Some providers do it wrong and flag all the cable channels.

    Probably few, as the quality isn't that great coming off of cable.
     
  9. Jan 29, 2020 #69 of 146
    foghorn2

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    Right, and Kodi itself is legal, Collins assertion that Kodi is not allowed on the Roku because of pirates and plex is -is completely false.

    Kodi is not on Roku, I believe its because its a closed system and they there's no development of it, and soon others wont develop on Rokus either, much like Tizen. Its all going to be andriod and ios as they are on cell phones too. There will no reason to develop for Rokus in the near future, the same fate of TiVo apps and older Samsung Tv's.

    And yes, Plex, will soon have it all, all your data, and just watch it somehow get hacked and the studios get it.
     
  10. Jan 29, 2020 #70 of 146
    saeba

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    Won't happen if you wear a tinfoil hat!
     
  11. Jan 29, 2020 #71 of 146
    Bigg

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    The problem is Kodi has a lot of pirated streaming services that are easily baked into it versus Plex, which is just a media server.
     
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  12. Jan 29, 2020 #72 of 146
    foghorn2

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    Not true, you down Kodi, there are no pirated services, you have to use addons for that. Just like you have to download/ torrents pirated files and use Plex to serve it to your devices or others.

    With Plex, you literally are serving pirated materials, with Kodi, your getting links and using them to stream through its interface.
     
  13. Jan 29, 2020 #73 of 146
    wizwor

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    The problem is Kodi won't run on a Roku. Roku runs scripts not apps or programs. That's by design.
     
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  14. Jan 29, 2020 #74 of 146
    Bigg

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    Apples and Oranges. With Plex you have to put them there, Kodi does a lot of the pirated streaming with the add-ons.
     
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  15. Jan 29, 2020 #75 of 146
    foghorn2

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    With Kodi you have to add the add ons and choose to stream.

    Since Plex is a server, it literally can stream pirated content to devices and others. And the law usually go after the distribution of stolen materials more so than receivers. And all that metadata is all there in Plex's hands as to what you have, and what you do with it.
     
  16. Jan 30, 2020 #76 of 146
    Sparky1234

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    pytivo with TE3.
     
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  17. Jan 30, 2020 #77 of 146
    Sparky1234

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    How is the quality of the off loaded TiVo shows that you later watch via Plex?

    On what platforms do you watch TiVo to Plex shows?
     
  18. Jan 30, 2020 #78 of 146
    Sparky1234

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    To me, pytivo transfers from PC to TiVo (Bolt, Roamio, Premiere) look and sound better than LG, Samsung AllShare or Streambaby DLNA streaming.

    How does Plex, Kodi, Roku, etc., quality content look and sound on a TiVo? TV? Other devices?
     
  19. Jan 30, 2020 #79 of 146
    Dan203

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    In most cases Plex will recode on the fly to match some predetermined max the device is capable of handling. It's been a loooong time since I played with it but for my Roamio it would recode everything to 720p at 59.94fps was not good compared to an original 1080p 24fps BD rip.

    pyTivo only transcodes when it has to. And I think more research has been put into what each individual TiVo unit is actually capable of handling. So in a lot of cases it will just remux while retaining the original video. Although recent units haven’t been tested as well so 4k content still aren’t handled properly.
     
  20. Jan 30, 2020 #80 of 146
    Sparky1234

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    Thanks Dan.

    So your original BD rip looked better with pyTiVo vs Plex? Your "pyTivo only transcodes" further explains why some pyTiVo transfers to Bolt, Roamio, Premier can't play video on a different class TiVo.
     

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