Soon Plex will have it all.

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by dadrepus, Jan 8, 2020.

  1. Jan 9, 2020 #21 of 146
    Narkul

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    I see. Not for me though. I have no inputs open on my tv and I don't use the firestick I have because I'm not a fan of the remote, UI, or Amazon ads all over it. Plex is reliable, plays well with my vpn, plays everything I throw at it, and uses less than 20mb of ram on a computer that's too old to be useful for anything else. Maybe sometime down the road, but it doesn't fit into my setup atm.
     
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  2. Jan 9, 2020 #22 of 146
    osu1991

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    Kodi sucks when trying to keep track of 50TB plus of files and you want to view something from that collection at a 2nd home. Emby and Plex work great for that.
     
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  3. Jan 9, 2020 #23 of 146
    slowbiscuit

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    No, it's not.
     
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  4. Jan 9, 2020 #24 of 146
    foghorn2

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    Yeah, but thats a niche market now, not relevant to TiVO anymore, or the general public.

    Not to say you are, but I fathom lots of these files shared with Plex are pirated off usenet or torrent. Thats why Plex is now in bed with the industry and you have less privacy rights. I own all my stuff and if i had a second home, I'd have a mirror over there- 2 NAS's ( NASSES :D ) @ each place self mirroring. No need to stream that stuff across the nation.
     
  5. Jan 9, 2020 #25 of 146
    NashGuy

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    Apple's API for their TV app on the Apple TV device does this. Sadly, Netflix is the one major service that chooses not to use that API but if you've opted in to linking Hulu, HBO Now, Disney+, Prime Video, etc. to the TV app and watch (or partially watch) something in any of those apps, it will be reflected in the TV app.
     
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  6. Jan 9, 2020 #26 of 146
    Dan203

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    Well Apple is the biggest company in the world, and TiVo is not, so not sure they have the same pull on these streaming services.
     
  7. Jan 9, 2020 #27 of 146
    foghorn2

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    Yeah, TiVo was trying to become the Apple of the Tv world and failed miserably. They have no clout in anything. Plex is grasping for relevancy too now that most content is legally available online.
     
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  8. Jan 9, 2020 #28 of 146
    NashGuy

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    Ha, true. I'm potentially interested in the TiVo Stream 4K but I wonder if it will rely on the same ol' metadata system as OnePass for tracking and deep-linking to content in the various streaming apps or if it will somehow work better (perhaps relying in part on Android TV/Google). My hunch is that it will just be OnePass.

    It looks like they have Netflix, Prime Video, and Vudu on board. Not sure about Hulu or HBO Now/Go (or the forthcoming HBO Max). To really shine, it'll need those, plus Disney+, Apple TV+ (which doesn't even offer an Android TV app yet), Peacock, Showtime, CBS AA, Starz, and Epix.
     
  9. Jan 9, 2020 #29 of 146
    Dan203

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    Yeah I don't envy TiVos position. Technologically everything they wanted OnePass to be should be possible. The problem is getting the cooperation of dozens of companies all with their own interest to cooperate. Even Apple hasn't achieved that 100% and they've got a LOT more clout.

    Maybe being an Android TV device means they'll be able to leverage some Google API that these companies will feel pressure to support, but Android TV isn't really a big player right now. Android on the smartphone is, but they're not quite the same thing and I'm not sure if Google will be able to spin the popularity of the phone OS into a successful TV streaming platform. We'll have to see. Amazon has taken the Android core and turned it into its own ecosystem with FireTV, but it's not Android TV so it's just yet another platform these services have to support and may not support this same theoretical API.
     
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  10. Jan 9, 2020 #30 of 146
    Charles R

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    I have always preferred Kodi (over Plex) for a variety of reasons. However I do use Plex Media Server for one thing... serve local music to Amazon's Dots.
     
  11. Jan 9, 2020 #31 of 146
    osu1991

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    Not everyone pirates, although I’ve never hid that I do get some Australian and UK programming via those means since none of the US companies seem to want to provide access to many of the niche shows from those countries. However, I’m sure I’m not alone in that I have several hundred CD’s, dvd’s and Blu-ray’s that I’m not buying duplicates for a second home, nor do I want to leave extra drives and equipment at that home for that purpose, when I can easily stream it through Plex or Emby, when that need arises.

    If I’m at the lake or in Las Vegas, I’m likely not spending a lot time watching my collection, so it’s just more wasted money having special equipment there for that purpose. Hence internet, OTA and Fire stick with Prime work well and if Plex can integrate it all into a single app, then even better.

    I don’t have much faith in that happening and I do prefer Emby, but I’ll give it a try if Plex does offer it. Unfortunately for Tivo, it could mean a further move away from their ecosystem. :(
     
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  12. Jan 9, 2020 #32 of 146
    trip1eX

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    Yeah that's how I feel about Plex. No reason to store gobs of shows locally any more. UNless you are Captain Jack Sparrow.
     
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  13. Jan 9, 2020 #33 of 146
    dadrepus

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    Didn't your mom teach you if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. ;)
     
  14. Jan 17, 2020 #34 of 146
    dgoner

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    I have had a Plex Pass subscription for a couple of years now. I seldom use my Plex server even though I have it connected to an HDHomerun and it's a DVR. Plex promises a ton of features but a lot of them are half baked and implemented. My Tivo blows my Plex server away in reliability for the feature I value most... Recording my TV programs...
     
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  15. Jan 17, 2020 #35 of 146
    dadrepus

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    I also still use Tivo to record some shows and it does do a great job. But i like to keep some shows and don't like to fill up Tivo HD so I use kmttg to transfer to my NAS after cutting commercials and putting it in the correct format for Plex to read. My wife and I rarely watch the recorded shows on Tivo especially since we have moved back to TE3 and no longer have auto skip ( which wasn't available on every show, anyway).
    You know, to each his own. I really like the guide in TE3 but Plex has become an established player in my familiy's entertainment system. There might be other things out there that does much of the same thing and i am willing to listen to people expand on their virtues. But all these Negative Jerks should just stop. You really do show the community your true colors.
     
  16. Jan 17, 2020 #36 of 146
    foghorn2

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    Seriously Plex is pure garbage. Im a positive guy. Im positive Plex sucks.
     
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    foghorn2

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  18. Jan 18, 2020 #38 of 146
    slowbiscuit

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    I'm positive you're 100% wrong.
     
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  19. Jan 19, 2020 #39 of 146
    Tony_T

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    Just started using PLEX with Roku about a month ago.
    Running it on a raspberry pi4 (it can also run on a pi3).
    Working great. I would have considered Kodi, but not having a Roku app is a dealbreaker for me. I don't want to Cast Kodi to Roku. (why don't they build a Roku app?)
     
  20. Jan 19, 2020 #40 of 146
    Pokemon_Dad

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    Possibly for the same reason the Channels DVR app for Roku was dropped: only the newest models can do local decoding and deinterlacing. The developers may consider the new models to be still underpowered, or perhaps it's now primarily a business case. They have their hands full with their current apps, and I think they'd get a lot of bad reviews when people try to load their app onto older devices. Plex can transcode and deinterlace on the server, but the Channels devs don't want all that going on inside home networks.
     

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