Sons of Anarchy 12/2/2014 (S07E12) "Red Rose"

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  1. Dec 3, 2014 #1 of 112
    dswallow

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    I was saddened that Jax killed Unser, moreso than just about anyone he's killed so far. That feels close to an unforgivable betrayal.

    Gemma can rot in the garden. That one's been a long time coming.
     
  2. Dec 3, 2014 #2 of 112
    cheesesteak

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    I thought there was no way in the universe Jax would be able to kill his mother. Boy, was I wrong.

    Aw, man. Jax killed Unser.

    I've hated Gemma for years but Katey Sagal was superb in this episode and in the show overall.

    Juice should have been dead three or four seasons ago.

    I loved the Make It Rain song by Ed Sheeran.

    I wonder who tended Gemma's father's garden.

    What's up with Jax's limp?

    Anarchy Afterword was interesting.
     
  3. Dec 3, 2014 #3 of 112
    Big Deficit

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    It's not just that he was killed, but how after killing him he was just left there as an afterthought. Very cold indeed! I guess in a way, Jax was doing him a favor considering the cancer and that Gemma was all he had and was going away shortly. It's funny how in TV, shoulder/upper chest wounds can be instantly fatal or have no impact whatsoever? Now there's just Jax to to deal with. Once he's "Mayhem'd", only his two sons remain of the Teller family. I wonder if they're going to make it through the blood bath?
     
  4. Dec 3, 2014 #4 of 112
    VegasVic

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    Great episode. I didn't think Jax would go through with it. I thought the after show was pretty good as well. Katey Sagal looks good at 60.

    Great to see Michael Chiklis.
     
  5. Dec 3, 2014 #5 of 112
    Peter000

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    How does Jax think he can get away with just outright shooting his mom and Unser? Or does he even care?

    He's gotta be the prime suspect in his mom's death. He's got blood all over is shoes and probably left foot and fingerprints all over the place.

    Also there's been dozens and dozens of gang members killed in massacres all over the place. You'd think we'd actually see some investigation into that.
     
  6. Dec 3, 2014 #6 of 112
    VegasVic

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    With impending Mayhem he doesn't care. No reason to hide/bury Gemma or Unser.
     
  7. Dec 3, 2014 #7 of 112
    cheesesteak

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    Three major cast member murders and umpteen of Lin's men killed. Gemma's lie is the gift that keeps on giving.

    I did not expect to see Charisma Carpenter on this show.
     
  8. Dec 3, 2014 #8 of 112
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    Gemma and her dad. That was touching. I love it when a show can make me hate a character and yet empathize with them at the same time. GoT is good at this also.
     
  9. Dec 3, 2014 #9 of 112
    SeanC

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    OMG I'm such a dolt, I forgot I didn't finish watching this last night and came in and spoiled myself.
     
  10. Dec 3, 2014 #10 of 112
    Shaunnick

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    Should we have spoiler tagged the ending?

    :D
     
  11. Dec 3, 2014 #11 of 112
    midas

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    Great episode. But I'm not sure I really care anymore what happens in the last episode. Hopefully I'll be surprised.
     
  12. Dec 3, 2014 #12 of 112
    GoPackGo

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    This. I felt like the series could have ended with this episode and I would have been moderately satisfied.
     
  13. Dec 3, 2014 #13 of 112
    VegasVic

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    Jax assured the other Prez's that his crew would "vote the right way". But it may be the "unwritten bylaw" that Packer and the rest agreed to throw out that may ultimately save Jax from Mayhem.
     
  14. Dec 3, 2014 #14 of 112
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    The "unwritten bylaw" may allow Jax to take himself out. I can think of a likely spot.


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  15. Dec 3, 2014 #15 of 112
    Beryl

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    Seemed unnecessary since he was capable of disarming Unser without killing him.
     
  16. Dec 3, 2014 #16 of 112
    VegasVic

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    Yes he could have. But he knew Unser would never keep quiet.
     
  17. Dec 3, 2014 #17 of 112
    danielhart

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    Glad Cindy Brady Tattletale Unser got whacked by jax. He has been nothing more than a tired banal plot device for quite some time now
     
  18. Dec 3, 2014 #18 of 112
    danielhart

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    I thought maybe it was about being able to patch over the Grim Bastards

    Also, I don't think Mayhem vote absolutely has to end with his death - it could be ex-communication. He would have to obliterate all of his MC ink. He may consider that to be a fate worse than death....
     
  19. Dec 3, 2014 #19 of 112
    danielhart

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    Mostly agree but he has been great in the past few episodes - his scene with Jax and the one with Unser and Jarry two weeks ago were awesome stuff.

    "Gemma knows the truth. Gemma knows every truth behind every lie inside every secret. She's the gatekeeper"
     
  20. Dec 3, 2014 #20 of 112
    Kamakzie

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    So if I understood correctly Jax assured a unanimous vote which would assure his death?
     

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