Software 9.4 just hit my S3…

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by kucharsk, Jul 15, 2008.

  1. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    The S2 is going to get at least one more update so that it can handle the aforementioned DTV tuners. Whether or not it's called 9.4 is anyone's guess.
    After that, who knows.
     
  2. Laserfan

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    Well, it turns-out that TivoPlayList v0.61 works just once, then it clobbers the Tivo somehow such that it has to be rebooted again. Specifically, if I ask TPL to download more than one file at a time, it completes the first file but then upon starting the 2nd file it aborts, leaving a 0 byte file and my Tivo in a state where https access doesn't work anymore (requiring a reboot). If I ask TPL to DL just one file at a time, this works over & over again. But there must be something new in v9.4 that TPL doesn't like. :(
     
  3. toddc

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    Makes sense, but I thought they try to keep the versions the same. There are some things that could be rolled out to the S2 such as folder play/folder delete. Also they seem to have been wanting to keep the software somewhat in sync as far as version numbers. I know there will be updates to S2 for things like the adapters. I suspect the software people working on the S@ will roll changes when they get something significant done.
     
  4. kwbdc

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    I must be in the minority but after getting a weird message that I only had 2 days of guide data left?? my TivoHD has worked flawlessly w/o any freezing...just in time for the Olympics! knock on wood!
     
  5. TiVoJerry

    TiVoJerry Caavo employee (Ex-TiVo, '00-'16)

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    I review the case reports during the initial rollout phase and am surprised at the number of people having connections problems, via phone or network, that do not know they have a problem until it is time to download software.

    For phone users, they don't know they have a slow connection until it's time to download a large file. Daily connections for them are either failing sporadically or taking much longer due to the slow speeds, but succeed frequently enough that they don't know they've missed a day or two. Luckily the SW downloads are incremental, so if they don't resolve the cause of the slow transfers they can keep trying and ultimately finish, but sometimes not before they run completely out of PGD. Just one of many reasons to go to a network connection.
     
  6. Tom White

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    Except for those of us out in the sticks where DSL is not even available. A minor penalty for being able to go home and actually get away from it all.
     
  7. Laserfan

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    My dialup speeds tend to <12kbps owing to having to go long distance I suppose. So we have satellite (Hughesnet), which restricts bytes-you-can-download, thus we still can't download video, but at least software downloads are faster and Tivo gets guide data & updates w/o any problem.
     
  8. bareyb

    bareyb Under Maintenance TCF Club

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    You call that MINOR? Dude. Move to where the people are. ;) :D
     
  9. ccrider2

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    Ya, Hughes is a real Byte in the arss! I think their days are numbered anyway. After the digital transition next February, there will be some empty bandwidth out there for wireless providers to snatch up. We've already got a service here in Central Indiana (NDwave) that provides the same low speed as Hughes for $20 less per month....with no DL limit...My 18 month commitment is almost expired. :D

    Chris
     
  10. ccrider2

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    This seems to have started about the time I got the update..... I don't think it ever happened before. If the buffer is full and I do a fast rewind to the beginning, the picture will freeze and the only way out of it is to toggle to the other tuner and back, which returns me to the full buffer. If I don't let it completely rewind, stop it just short, then rewind till it reaches the buffer start... its OK.

    Anyone seeing this? Or Has this bug always been there.

    Chris

    I've got an S3 .... stock.
     
  11. mattack

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    I definitely see 'weirdnesses' with FF/rewind on 9.4 on both my S3 & TivoHD. I *also* think that the hard drive in my S3 is going. But I have nothing to suspect the hard drive in my TivoHD is going.

    Basically, FF/rewind seem a lot less smooth than they used to be. They're choppy. Even FFing all the way up to 'live' or the end of a recording ends up pausing for a while (it SEEMS like a few seconds), then jumps back (as if you hit play).

    The problems are worse on the S3, but that's likely due to the (presumed) hard drive issues.
     
  12. a68oliver

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    My S3 with 9.4 did this just yesterday. I toggled to the other tuner and back to recover.
     
  13. ccrider2

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    Hopefully the Engineers at Tivo will pick up on this and correct it if a lot of owners have this problem. Until then I'll have to stop it short of the buffer start. No more running to the fridge while rewinding my buffer. :(

    How's about a comment from Mr "TiVoJerry"? Got your ears on buddy? :)

    Chris
     
  14. jrm01

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    Although this is a bug that needs to be fixed, I don't understand why you would want to "rewind" to the beginning. Why not just use skip-to-beginning function (rewind & Skip keys). That gets you there with two keystrokes in 2 seconds.
     
  15. shrike4242

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    I didn't have this issue until the 9.4 update.

    My symptom on this issue is if I FF through a recorded show or a buffer, and then hit the backup 7 sec button during the 1-2 sec pause, I end up at the end of the buffer/recorded show.

    My S3 is stock internally, though has a 750GB Seagate DB35.3 and an Antec MX-1 external enclosure.
     
  16. TiVoJerry

    TiVoJerry Caavo employee (Ex-TiVo, '00-'16)

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    I'm interested in hearing more about the FF/RWD oddities. I always use the Advance button to skip to the start immediately. I just tried what you mentioned and it didn't work, but I had two Suggestions recording and am using the supported DVR Expander.

    Because there are already two differing symptoms being described, it might be best to start new threads on them. If we do stick to using this thread, people will need to be clear what issue they are reporting on.

    I'd also like to know whether or not this involves 1 or both tuners recording or not, as well as which make/model external drive you have (if any).
     
  17. ccrider2

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    TiVoJerry,
    Perhaps what we need is a clear explanation of how the "skip-ahead" and "skip-back" buttons are supposed to work. Both as set from factory, and set as "skip-ahead" ??seconds. (Can't remember the key combination required to do this) I was unaware of using the rewind button with the skip button, and what it accomplishes, as in an above post. (this seems to be a much easier alternative to the rewind button only)

    Could setting the "skip-ahead" to "seconds" rather than "to the end" be causing a problem?

    I've got a stock S3, except for the "skip-ahead" set to "so many seconds" instead of "to the end". No expander. Right now I'm recording two shows, so I tried playing a 3rd recorded show, and the rewinding from the end DIDN'T cause the problem. I also just tried rewinding one of the recording tuners from it's current spot and no problem....go figure. I'll have to wait till I have no recordings going on to check to see if it's just the live buffer where the problem crops up. I'll try to get to this tomorrow, and see if I can be more concise as to where the problem is occurring.

    Thanks for your time,

    Chris
     
  18. jrm01

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    Setting the Advance Button to 30-second skip has no affect on the skipping functions. If you are watching a recording and press Rewind then press Advance (->|) it will skip back to the previous tick mark. Press the Advance Button again and it goes back another tick mark. To go forward just use the FF and Advance in the same way. If you are watching LiveTV it will advance to the beginning of the buffer or end of buffer instead of to tick marks.

    Of course if you have not set the 30-second skip the Advance button toggles between the beginning of buffer and the end of buffer. That's why I was wondering why someone would start rewinding and go the fridge waiting for it to get back to the beginning.

    BTW, TiVo does not charge extra for watching a recording and forgetting to Rewind when you're done.:D
     
  19. TiVoJerry

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    Skip ahead functionality (off the top of my head):
    "The button" = the button above the "3" that looks like "->|"

    Official functionality:
    When playback occurs at normal speed, pressing the Advance button will jump the cursor to end of available video. Another press will jump you to the beginning. This behavior is the same for LiveTV and recorded playback.

    When using FF or RWD in a recorded program, including one currently being recorded, pressing this button will make the cursor jump to the next tick mark. Tick marks occur every 15 minutes for programs under 3 hours (or maybe 4....I'm not gonna look it up), after which it goes up to a 30-minute interval. This functionality does not work in non-recorded LiveTV (for consistency's sake I'd rather it worked the same as for recordings, even though that only allows a maximum of two separate tick marks, but that's my personal peeve).

    On a side note, this same button is also used to jump ahead a day in the guide on the S3 & HD platforms, when the highlight is on the left column.

    30-second skip:
    When this is activated, the button will still behave the same at normal viewing speed, but when used with FF/RWD it will jump you 30 seconds rather than to a tick mark. Some prefer this method to skipping commercials than using FF, although I'm not one of them. I prefer to see if something catches my eye in the background.....that "funny commercial" I hear about or movie previews.

    EDIT #1 (since jrm01 posted whilst I was writing): I could be a bit off target on this, as I've only heard of people using 30-sec skip going forward, so it may not work going backward. Again, it's not something I use myself.

    EDIT #2, 8/18/08: After testing this at home a little, I see that FF/RWD skip-to-tic functionality behaves normally when 30-sec skip is engaged, but you cannot jump to the end/start of a program directly.
     
  20. jrm01

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    Other way around. At normal speed it jumps 30 seconds (forward only). With FF/Rew it operates the same as when 30-sec skip isn't used.
     

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