So will the new Amazon Fire TV Cube work with Tivo?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Myrtledog, Jun 7, 2018.

  1. XIBM

    XIBM Member

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    Thanks for the detail, my dot will do the last four item, so I have to give them up with the cube?
    Can you get the cube to play music using its speaker, not your soundbar with TV on?
     
  2. cwoody222

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    Something changed.

    “Alexa go to home” worked on my Mini tonight. I actually had to say “Alexa go to home on Fire TV” to get it to do what I wanted... which was switch inputs to the Fire.

    Now we just need a “live tv”command for the TiVo.
     
  3. cwoody222

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    And now my Fire lost the ability to turn on my tv when I ask to switch tuners to the TiVo or to watch a channel on the TiVo.

    I had to run setup on the Fire again. Now it turns on the tv when I request a channel but not when changing inputs.
     
  4. shwru980r

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    Seems strange to me that Tivo would integrate Amazon Alexia, but not have a streaming app for the fire TV.
     
  5. ah30k

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    Why? My annotation of A and B above. Under A, TiVo is adding features to its product to make it a stronger option for its consumers. Under B, it is providing incentives NOT to purchase one of its products (TiVo would rather you purchase a mini rather than a FireTV).
     
  6. shwru980r

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    TiVo BOLT, Roamio Pro, and Roamio Plus devices have built-in streaming capability that the customer paid extra for. Charging extra for functionality that can't be used is a poor business model because it discourages customers from upgrading or buying the top of the line model. Might as well buy a Roamio OTA and add a cable card if needed. Tivo could also charge a fee for the app.
     
  7. gbenrus25

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    Not sure I understand why you think it's strange. An app means you no longer need to buy a TiVo mini which is a source of revenue for TiVo. Integrating Alexa on the other hand is a value add that doesn't eat into TiVo's margins and encourages you to buy a TiVo because you can voice control it without picking up a remote. Also, a lot of people already have Alexa devices making the value add even greater (no need to buy an extra device to control your TV watching). It's very far from strange
     
  8. shwru980r

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    The app certainly isn't as good as a mini and they do sell Bolts with the streaming capability and they could charge for the app. You can also travel with a fire tv stick and use the app for out of home streaming. A mini isn't practical for that.
     
  9. gbenrus25

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    Oh, I understand the benefits of the app and would also love to get an app. I'm just saying it's far from strange that they'd integrate Alexa but not release a Fire TV app
     
  10. shwru980r

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    The Fire TV stick has Alexa which could be used to control out of home streaming if there was an app.
     
  11. Myrtledog

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    So I just got the cube set up with a Mini and it works pretty well. However whenever I turn it on after a few hours of downtime the Mini is in standby mode so there’s no live tv unless I use the TiVo remote to wake it up...
    Is there any way to set the Mini so it doesn’t sleep?
     
  12. cwoody222

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    Nope. I have the same problem :(
     
  13. Steven Rogers

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    Just wanted to express my thanks for the helpful instructions in this thread. This Community is great!
     
  14. mobilelawyer

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    I tried this last night with the just- released new FireTV Cube, and it seems to work swimmingly to tune cable channels with my Bolt, no Guide or My Shows can be invoked by voice command like they can be with my Harmony Hub Alexa app. I have Harmony skill disabled in the Alexa app while playing with the new Cube. Given what I have read in this thread, it would not play nicely with the Cube. One thing I have noticed is that when you tell Alexa to turn off the TV, it and my Onkyo receiver are indeed turned off. But with everything off, if you say Alexa tune to ESPN, she obeys the command, and turns on my Onkyo receiver, and tunes to the correct channel on TiVo. But she does not turn on the TV. Interestingly, if I say turn on the TV, she then turns it on. But then the Cube switches to the default Fire TV homepage. It is a glitch that I can live with. I'll just say Alexa turn on the TV, and then say Alexa tune to ESPN.

    My main reason for purchasing the Cube was to use it as a voice controlled switcher for all of my components. We will see how it fits the bill. The jury is out so far. One thing I noticed, and that Harmony users should note is that when you are running one activity, say you are streaming on your Roku device, and you tell Alexa to tune something on cable, she will immediately do it. But Harmony still thinks you are running the Roku activity. It is just like going up to the receiver and manually changing the input to cable as far as the Harmony app is concerned. You then have to change Harmony over to your Tivo Activity to be in sync with what Alexa just did. This can be disconcerting. We shall see.
     
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  15. RoninSwordstar

    RoninSwordstar Tivo Junkie

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    Where it...
    So... With the new Amazon Fire TV 2019 unit the process is not well documented to get it to actually control the Tivo, but it is fairly simple.

    you have to manually add the tivo in the manage equipment part of settings. Once that's done, it's a snap. The phone app doesn't actually apply the skill for some reason...

    But it does work like a charm.
     
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