So...What is a 10-250 DTV/Tivo customer to do?

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by Cutty, Sep 5, 2008.

  1. BGLeduc

    BGLeduc Member

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    My exact situation.

    Well, wait, not exactly....I am using a diplexor to get the OTA line in, so I really only have two hard lines coming in, and it would be even more difficult were I to want to have m HR10 ride shotgun with a D* box.

    Brian
     
  2. shibby191

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    Let me think here, some ideas.

    If you get an SWM then you can run both tuners of an HR2x with just one line. Then run the other two dedicated for the HR10 with OTA diplexed in (after the SWM, use the legacy ports on the SWM for these 2 lines). So long as the OTA isn't diplexed in before the SWM you're ok. But now that I think about it the SWM does have an OTA port on it so it's diplexed in automatically (but not sure on the legacy ports to the HR10) so you could probably then have your diplexor to split OTA out on the HR2x line and then you can split it to the HR10 (as well as the HR20 or AM21 OTA module if you wish).

    Thus I think you could run both HR2x and an HR10 along with OTA with just 3 lines. :D
     
  3. stevel

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    Diplex the HR10 line - diplexing doesn't work well with SWM.
     
  4. Sir_winealot

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    Hold on a sec ...you might've lost me here.

    If I use SWM for HR2x, and use a 2nd diplexed with OTA for the HR10, wouldn't I just end up with the HR10 having a single tuner plus OTA?
     
  5. shibby191

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    Nope.

    Let's diagram it and we'll use Steve's advice.

    Your 4 lines from the Dish go to the SWM8 which can replace your multiswitch or you can cascade it off the WB68 multiswitch if needed.

    On the SWM8 you'll run 1 line from the SWM output to the SWM input on the HR2x. This will run both tuners in the HR2x. This also takes 2 of the 8 SWM tuners available to you. Also since it's from an SWM you don't need BBC connectors on the HR2x, the BBC function is built into the SWM. You can use standard cable type splitters on that SWM line as well to run to other HR2x units in the house, even using your standard cable lines in house wiring. Anyway...

    On the SWM8 will be a couple (3 I think) ports labeled "Legacy". These can be used for older non SWM capable receivers like the HR10. So run 2 lines off the legacy ports to the HR10, diplexing in your OTA to one of those lines. Key is to diplex *after* the SWM.

    Thus this gives you both tuners and OTA for your HR10 and both tuners for your HR2x (and OTA) all on 3 cables. Easy as punch. :)

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    If you have a lot of legacy receivers then I'd suggest a cascade.
    4 lines from dish to WB68 (or the 16 port version). 4 lines from there to the SWM, the other 4 lines open and available for tuners of legacy recievers (and OTA can be diplexed in).
    Then from the SWM you'll have the legacy ports for more legacy receivers (and diplex in OTA, again after the SWM) and 8 SWM tuners available (which again can run off just one wire with standard splitters if you want).
     
  6. stevel

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    2 legacy ports on the SWM8.

    I run four lines from the dish. One SWM, two legacy for the HR10 and one OTA (can't diplex because it's a powered antenna.)
     
  7. katie-dvr

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    after 3 week wait...... upgrade done at last!

    HR22 in southern NH

    i demurely asked the tech if he had a 22 for me, so he checked and had a mix of 21s and 22s on his truck... blink blink :rolleyes:

    found out AFTER the tech left that some how when he registered the new box and deactivated an old old one, none of the 3 boxes would record. took another 20 mins on the phone with support to get the boxes cleared and re-reactivated.

    lost my HD antenna for local channels with the HR22. The tech said I'd have to run a separate cable, punch down thru attic and hook it direct to the tv and use the tv-input modes to access it. he did try to split a line direct to the tv but the splitter screwed up the reception. (prior installer had combined the wire from the HD antenna into the wires from the satellite in the attic, so only two wires came down from the attic, and a splitter on the back of the hr10 to the off air antenna on the box.) oh well.

    i swapped out an archiac non dvr box with the hr10 on an old portable tv just for the dvr ability. this requires an "rca to coax converter" since there isn't a cable plug on the back of the hr10.

    i'm off to start stuffing my HR22 drive and figure out the net connection. what a joy to have caller-id back after i lost it when went to the hr10.

    AND... getting the hr22 buys me more time for that tenbox price to drop!!!
    lol

    kt :)
    ps to stevel... a jeep lol.
     
  8. rv65

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    They have the AM-22 which you can use in addition to the HR-22. The AM-22 is about 50 USD and it comes with 2 ATSC tuners. Plugs in via the antenna and USB to the HR-21/22.
     
  9. stevel

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    That's AM21.

    If you had a SWM module you could use just one line for the HR22 and another one for the antenna. You can buy a SWM-8 separately.

    A Jeep, eh? I'll watch for that...
     
  10. madbeachcat

    madbeachcat Content is King

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    Put me down as not disappointed in the HR21.
     
  11. stevel

    stevel Dumb Blond TCF Club

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    I'm pretty sure that the percentage of disappointed Comcast TiVo customers is much higher, from all that I have read.
     
  12. katie-dvr

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    are you sure about that stevel? disappointed comcast tivo people?

    i'm not sure i can get much more disappointed with directv at this point (after 13 years). first problem after the tech did the upgrade, no boxes in my house would record. ok, called and they resolved it.

    Except now the brand new hr22 "forgets" local HD channels and some of the premium HD channels when it tries to time record them. sometimes they come back on their own, sometimes after resetting the box. after a couple calls to support (and time on their tech forum), the guy is sending me a replacement box within the next 5 days that i will have to install myself. this concerns me because the tech-spert on the forum said that two of the satellites are reading too low for proper alignment and it needs to be repositioned.

    and of course just because i have a (broken) hr22 doesn't mean it will be replaced by an hr22. he didn't see what the difference was so i enlightened him regarding twice the memory.

    all i can say is that i hope the tivo deal next year isn't too late to save their reputation.

    kt, missing tivo big time!
     
  13. katie-dvr

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    oh and i forgot to mention the system-wide current problem:
    remote and front of box fails to respond
    i learned about during the 'on hold' announcements waiting for the tech this morning... which i didn't have at the time but i now do!
    (please do not report this issue, we are aware of it and it will be resolved shortly.... per their message...)

    kt, missing tivo big time!
     
  14. jimb726

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    Have you rebooted your system? Open the panel on the front of the DVR and press the small red button. He sytem will reboot and you should be good to go. It appears that soemthing occurred last night between 1:30 and 6:00 am and cuase the boxes to no respond to the remotes.
     
  15. kaszeta

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    You might need to pull the plug as well. Neither of my HR21s responded to the red button reboot.

    (Still don't know if they came back up, I had to leave for work with mine stuck on 97%)
     
  16. newsposter

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    hmm interesting...this morning i had no response either..just pulled the plug.it's about every week or 2 that i have this issue
     
  17. sjberra

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    There is a couple f threads over on dbstalk, seems bad guide data
     
  18. katie-dvr

    katie-dvr New Member

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    i'm sick of rebooting the system from the bad hr22 forgetting some HDs... yes, it also resolved the frozen remote issue... and it (reboot) also resolved the frozen screen issue...

    directv did send out an email about the remote issue. As far as i'm concerned --about the only proactive thing they've done in a long while...

    and fed ex just came with the replacement box and of course it is only an hr21 so i'm just about beyond myself being fed up with directv.

    now i'm off to plug in and configure the blasted replacement... keeping my fingers crossed because i'm also sick of their phone support... long gone are the days when someone without a scripted response, let alone pleasant, used to take the calls..........
     
  19. eboydog

    eboydog Just TiVo'ing.....

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    I had my fill of Directv too and just dropped them after getting a real Tivo (Tivo HD).

    The only hassle I have had which was nothing compared to others was getting the cable cards set and activated. Did have an amusing call today as I wasn't getting audio on two HD channels after one cable "tech" told me they didn't support Tivo's and I would have to fix it myself, a second call confirmed that I wasn't even suppose to be able see the two channels much less not have audio as I hadn't paid the extra $6.95 for the "HD" package. Which then I understood that my cable companies "HD" package was two HD channels !?!?! for which Directv does get credit for their HD lineup.

    Katie-dvr, if you aren't happy with the Directv and what they have "upgraded" you to, I'm rather sure (and stand to be corrected) you have the option to backout if 30 days have not lapsed otherwise you are going to be stuck with 2 year commitment.

    I can't live without my Tivo and Directv's offering of their DVR's were not an option for me and as cable was available, my choice was easy.
     
  20. katie-dvr

    katie-dvr New Member

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    the replacement box i received is an hr21 pro...
    i wasn't aware that the "pro" has the larger hard drive like the hr22.

    i guess i didn't "post" my last entry... but the replacement box fails in the same way as the HR22 and tomorrow directv will provide concierge service manage the problem(s) to resolution.

    kt, still pouting over losing tivo
     

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