So What do think abou the HR20?

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  1. JohnB1000

    JohnB1000 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, I think I knew that but it's hard to remember. The list is not as clean or easy to use as they Tivo one though where you can see what's on on a page worth of channels and 12 hours forward on the one you are on.
     
  2. kmill14

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    Well, I have had a couple weeks to use the HR-20 for my NFLST viewing, and I would definitely rate it well below Tivo.

    The lack of a Dual Live Buffer of any sort drives me out of my mind. Even if I record one game and want to switch back and forth to another (non-recording) game, it constantly jumps to the end when I switch to the non-recorded game. If there is a work-around for this, I don't know what it is...but I didn't need a work around (or record a game period) to give me the ability to watch multiple games at the same time. I should be able to pause one and flip back to the other if I have 2 tuners. Perhaps this is their work-around for the Tivo '389 patent?

    The 30-second slip feature is really 35 seconds with the 2-3 second slip-back. 30 seconds works perfectly for skipping huddles, and 35/32-33 doesn't.

    I like the idea of being able to program in your fantasy players (Player Watch) and it tells you (if you have Super Fan and are not on a local channel) when one of your players makes a play of some sort. However, I can't switch back to watch that game unless I am recording it or another game, so its kind of a waste!

    I do love the Game Mix channel, but I wish I could limit it to 4 or 6 boxes. I know...wishful thinking.
     
  3. RS4

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    That is hardly a fluke. Yeah, go over to dbstalk and read about all the others having the same problem.
     
  4. Craig540

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    This was the main feature I was missing (TIVO style guide ) thanks you just made my day. The other thing was the dual buffers and the ability to switch between tuners with the down arrow button. Is there a way to switch between tuners.

    I am happy I made the switch to the HR20. I got 3 free and DVR service free for 1 year, free hbo/showtime for 6 months.
     
  5. coachO

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    Wilbur, you seem to have made the transition well. Maybe there are some work arounds for my issues.
    1) I like to watch some football plays in slow motion which is easy on Tivo, but I never get the push and hold button right on the HR20
    2) I really like the 30 sec skip, but get "tired" of staring at the screen during the HR20 30 sec slip.
    3). It seems too easy to watch 2 football games at the same time with my HR10 due to dual buffers and easly with the live tv button on the remote. The hr20 just seems painful
    4) To find my list of recorded shows is easy on the tivo, one button, on the HR20 it says MY playlist, then it says go there, then they are in folders instead of listed by recording date and fewer shows are listed on the screen.

    I have more that I could list and don't get me wrong, the HR20 does some things I like. OTA seems to have a stronger signal and the interface is much much faster.

    I have read all of Milo's extremely helpful posts which eliminated the learning curve for the HR20, so need to send me there.
     
  6. Billy66

    Billy66 Again with shoelaces

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    To me, DLB is the best for football. I think you know the work arounds about recording them both, but for football it's not as seamless as it was with tivo and DLB.

    For me, I like the slip over the skip for in between plays, but I know that's personal.

    Don't hit menu first. The fastest way is to hit the list button. Bam, one button to the playlist (honestly tivo was 2 presses of the tiVo button right?). Now, if you want to change the sort of the playlist, while you're in the list, hit Menu and then choose "Order by" and your order choice will be saved. There are definitely some improvements in this area for you.

    Good luck man.
     
  7. coachO

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    Thanks Billy. It is still going to take some awesome HD channels to intice me to give it a shot again.
     
  8. montag

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    I'd love it if the HR20 had this feature. Anyone?
     
  9. bigpuma

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    The HR20 does not have DLBs. It is the most requested feature on dbstalk.com.
     
  10. milominderbinder

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    No. There is a DLB work-around but it is a kludge. Dual Live Buffers is the most requested feature on the HR20. The feature I want most is Channels I Receive.

    - Craig
     
  11. milominderbinder

    milominderbinder New Member

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    1) To use Slo-Mo, you have to press & hold the play button for 3 seconds. By then the play is over...
    2) I am more bothered by the fact that the 30 second slip is actually 35 seconds.
    3) DLB is the #1 requested feature. The HR20 Tips & Tricks has a workaround, not elegant but it works.
    4) The LIST button is for MyPlaylist. You also have a hidden option about the sorting.

    - Craig
     
  12. fasTLane

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    Dual live buffers may be impossible on this unit due to design paramaters, if not illegal.
     
  13. Jebberwocky!

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    with three units hooked up to the same TV, do I have TLB? ;)
     
  14. bigpuma

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    Yes, but it's not as easy to jump between them. :p
     
  15. bigpuma

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    Why would it be illegal? :confused:
     
  16. jaypb

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    Glad I found this thread. I've had my HR20 for about 3 months now and I currently have 4 10-250's so it's going to take me (as well as the wife) awhile to get used to the things we miss as we *attempt* to migrate from HDtivo to D*DVR technology. I realize that the HDTIVO's aren't infallible or error-proof, but I'm certainly either missing/longing for the following or hoping that D* adds them to the HR20:

    1- Is it just me (or maybe it's been discussed and I've missed it) or does anyone else hate the fact that 3X FF speed on the TIVO equated to about 1 minute of show time per second....so you could fly through a :60 minute show in literally one minute (perfect IMHO for SportsCenter, FSN Sports reports, Baseball Tonight,e tc..) whereas the HR20's 3x FF speed equates to about 35-40 seconds of show per second of forwarding....and the 4x FF speed IMHO is just unviewable?

    2- The 30 second skip/slip. I've used that since day one.

    3- Folder related-I record a LOT of daily/weekly sports shows (Sportrise from CSN 629, Baseball Tonight from ESPN, FSR Baseball report, TWIB from FSN etc...) and what I dislike about the HR20 is that when I scroll to the bottom or even the middle of a group of recordings, watch that show and DELETE it, the menu/playlist defaults back to the FIRST entry in the folder. Is there a way to NOT default back to the first entry in the folder? I'm almost positive that the HDTIVO would just leave me on the recording directly "above" the one I just deleted. Or am I missing a menu function/feature on the HR20....or am I the only one who has 20-30 recordings in a folder at a time?

    4- Believe it or not, I miss the clock/timer in the bottom right hand corner. I have the hr20 in my dark basement where I can't see a clock....and I don't like having to hit play or info to see where I am in a recording.

    5- Suggestions. I truly use this on a daily basis for everything from Sports shows/events (ESPN News, Coaches shows, College football) to Animation/Kids shows (Family Guy/Arthur/South Park) to my wife's L&O's re-runs on USA etc...

    6- The Tivo style guide is something that the wife and I have grown used to using, especially when it comes to scanning HBO-HD and SHO-HD to see what new/good movies are on from Friday-Sunday.

    7- Saved searches---is there a limit? I've been using this as a workaround for Wishlists, as I use my wishlists on my Tivo's not to autorecord...but to find the types of shows I want to record by Keyword---and then I choose if I want to record them.

    8-Dual Live Buffers...as a good amount of others have already commented on.

    These were the only ones I could rattle off right from the top of my head. I have yet to make the move to attempt to REPLACE any of my HDTIVO's with an HR20. The reason I got an HR20 was to familiarize myself for when I was ready to go full bore, swap out my HDTIVO's and just "move on". But, I haven't brought myself to do that yet....and I guess it's because the new HD channels haven't come out yet. But, it's inevitable that I WILL have to move to the HR20 full-scale...if only for all the additional HD movie/sports channels that I'm hoping to have access to.
     
  17. milominderbinder

    milominderbinder New Member

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    jaypb,

    Please refer to the dbstalk forum and specifically the HR20 FAQ for HR20 questions but here are some quick answers:
    1- From the HR20 Tips & Tricks: Fast Forward is 5, 12, 20, or 90 times normal speed
    3- Press [BACK] then ● Delete and you will be right where you left off.
    5- I use the directv.com mytvplanner
    6- For the TiVo style guide, press <GUIDE> highlight the channel name & press <INFO>
    7- You can have up to 25 Saved searches. Series Link are what you are looking for.
    8- The HR20 Tips & Tricks has a workaround, not elegant but it works.

    - Craig
     
  18. kmill14

    kmill14 New Member

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    I wish people would stop with the "Dual Live Buffer" workaround. Its not a workaround. Its a Dual Record Buffer. You can't channel surf, and start a new buffer without recording that new channel. Its useless for NFLST users that like to game-surf.
     
  19. Billy66

    Billy66 Again with shoelaces

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    That's one of those debates. I agree with you kmill14. It's only on NFL Sundays that I miss it, but I know it's year round for others.

    The work around doesn't help me much, but I hear it has value for some.
     
  20. fasTLane

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    Just give it up, kmill14. Let the HR20 crowd have their little workaround.

    Have to say that feature is mighty addictive. ;)

    Thanks Tivo engineers.
     

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