So What do think abou the HR20?

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by JoeAverage, Aug 20, 2007.

  1. Aug 25, 2007 #41 of 319

    Arcady Stargate Fan

    Oct 14, 2004


    You have local channels in semi-HD, but not all of them.

    I have a $2 antenna from 1964 that gets the same stuff, but in better quality.
  2. Aug 25, 2007 #42 of 319

    Howie Out of Pocket TCF Club

    May 3, 2004
    San Antonio
    I'll bet you couldn't tell the difference between your $2 OTA and D* M4 HD. I can't.
  3. Aug 25, 2007 #43 of 319

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    Columbia, MD
    I don't see an MPEG4 capable box in your sig. How do you know what the MPEG4 quality is or isn't? Though it doesn't stop you from chiming in on this every time you get a chance?
  4. Aug 25, 2007 #44 of 319

    madbeachcat Content is King

    Jan 31, 2002
    Dyersburg, TN
    Just have to throw my 2 cents in. I had the HR10-250 for about a year and a half, and loved it. But when we moved last year, I decided to go with the HR20.

    It's definitely different, but IMHO it is a little bit better. I do miss DLB, but I love having a 90 min buffer. It has never missed a recording. ( The only problem I have had is that sometimes it records shows from a series link that it should not record. Messed up guide data? )

    No cute little sounds, but I can live with that. Number one on my list of things I like though is the speed. I always hated how my Tivo would take so long to do anything. The HR20 just zips through tasks that would render my Tivo useless for 2 or 3 minutes.

    Plus, a big driver for the change for me was HD locals and now all of the new channels upcoming. If the interface is the most important thing for you, the by all means stay with Dtivo and hope for a new MPEG4 DTivo, but if content is what's important to you consider the HR20.
  5. Aug 26, 2007 #45 of 319

    gsslug New Member

    Dec 31, 2002
    Sacramento, CA


    I've had mine a few weeks now. I miss the ease of use of the TIVO interface. Ordering PPV movies is a pain unless I'm missing something. First you buy it and then you have to record it. Two separate procedures. No buy and record option like TIVO.

    Making changes to "season passes" is more difficult.

    And then there is the occasional audio dropouts. If I was a new DVR user and never had a TIVO I probably would be happy. But while I've gotten use to it I miss my TIVO.
  6. Aug 26, 2007 #46 of 319

    stevel Dumb Blond TCF Club

    Aug 23, 2000
    Nashua, NH
    Note that with the HR20 and PPV, you don't pay for a PPV until you watch it. I am not sure about the buy/record thing since I have not done this myself, but I don't think it's that complicated.
  7. Aug 26, 2007 #47 of 319

    bigpuma Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2003
    Morgan Hill, CA
    Right it's actually a better way to do PPV where you record it first then you can choose to watch it anytime and buy it only if you watch it.
  8. Aug 26, 2007 #48 of 319

    HiDefGator New Member

    Oct 12, 2004
    Really? This is news to me. Maybe I haven't bought a PPV on my HR20 yet. So I can record all the PPV movies for free but then I have to agree to pay for it if\when I watch it? Can I still watch it multiple times?
  9. Aug 26, 2007 #49 of 319

    bigpuma Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2003
    Morgan Hill, CA
    I believe so although they seem to have added an expiration date to the PPVs so you might have to watch it before the expiration date. I really haven't watched that many PPVs but being able to record them and not pay is nice so we always record a few things in case we decide to watch a movie sometime.
  10. Aug 27, 2007 #50 of 319

    samo New Member

    Oct 7, 1999
    After you paid for it you can watch it as many times as you want and keep it on your machine for as long as you want.
    You have a choice of "buy" or "record" that may be confusing for some.
    If you "buy", the PPV channel opens up for 24 hrs, so you can schedule recording at any time you prefer or watch it right away (if movie will start in a few minutes, obviously, you don't want to watch from the middle of the movie).
    If you select "record", then movie will record at scheduled time, but you will not be charged unless you select it to play and confirm that you want to pay for it.
    It will sit on your DVR for 30 to 45 days and if you don't buy it - it will just erase after the set time. I record all the PPV that I potentially want to watch, but quite often I let it expire because by the time I ready to watch it, it already scheduled to be on HBO or Starz within few weeks.
  11. Aug 27, 2007 #51 of 319

    bigpuma Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2003
    Morgan Hill, CA
    Thanks for the info. I wasn't sure if the expiration dates were just until you purchased the PPV. It's good to know you can keep it after you buy it. I do like this way of implementing PPVs and I am much more likely to buy them in the future.
  12. Aug 27, 2007 #52 of 319

    pcdoc New Member

    Feb 8, 2004
    As most others, I am considering the switch to the HR20. I have 5 DVR's and 1 receiver with DirecTV including 2 HR10's. I am also considering going to FIOS when it is available in my area, but in order to keep my family happy with 5 DVR's, I would have to make quite an initial investment to switch.

    The only thing really holding me back is the picture quality of DirecTV. I have heard some mention the quality of HD in MPEG4 as compared to MPEG2, but I did not get a feeling for which one is better, or if there is a difference. So, to get to my question, is the HD MPEG4 picture better than what I am getting now in MPEG2 on my HR10s?

    Lastly, does anyone know what the early termination fee for leaving D* is?

  13. Aug 27, 2007 #53 of 319

    jimb726 New Member

    Jan 4, 2007
    Cleveland, Ohio

    If I am not mistaken it is either 12.95 ro 13.95 a month for each month remaining on your commitment.
  14. Aug 28, 2007 #54 of 319

    Cruzan New Member

    Dec 21, 2001
    Santa Cruz CA
    Were any of you hr20 users heavy wishlist users on the Tivo? I am, and all I've been able to glean from the forums is that I would miss a lot on the HR20. What does that mean exactly?

    For example, I have wishlists to pick up any HD tennis, HD SF movies, Simpsons reruns on any channel, any movie with Uma in it, and many more. How would this work on the HR 20?
  15. Aug 28, 2007 #55 of 319

    Fahtrim Member

    Apr 12, 2004
    I like the HR20. In my opinion, the speed and the sound (surround) are both better on the HR20.

    I still have my HR10 as well, but since the auto correct out of fast forward showed up on the HR20, the HR10 has been getting less use. Full surround sound in the theater room is a big deal to me.

    Remote booking is going to be awesome as well.
  16. Aug 28, 2007 #56 of 319

    HiDefGator New Member

    Oct 12, 2004
    I give up. What is an HD SF movie?
  17. Aug 28, 2007 #57 of 319

    guins Networked DTiVo User

    Oct 9, 2001
    Pittsburgh, PA

    my guess.....hi-def sci-fi. :cool:
  18. Aug 28, 2007 #58 of 319

    eddieras99 New Member

    Sep 2, 2002
    deerfield, il
    the HR10 outputs in dolby digital, but you're saying the sound on the hr20 is better than that of the hr10?? interesting,. anyone else find this?
  19. Aug 28, 2007 #59 of 319

    Billy66 Again with shoelaces

    Dec 15, 2003
    To me, the sound is the same. I don't notice a sound improvement on the HR20 vs. the HR10. I don't think there is one.
  20. Aug 28, 2007 #60 of 319

    Cruzan New Member

    Dec 21, 2001
    Santa Cruz CA
    Excellent guess.

    So, any ex-Tivo wishlist users on their experiences with the HR20?

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