So What do think abou the HR20?

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by JoeAverage, Aug 20, 2007.

  1. Aug 21, 2007 #21 of 319

    lancelot New Member

    Jul 8, 2006


    I don't think the HR20 is built as well as the HR10. My HR20s make noise like a typewriter. The HR10 is quiet and has more of the features I like--suggestions, wish list, etc.

    If it wasn't for MPEG IV compatibility, I would never have consiered the HR20. I've suffered through lock ups, missed recordings, etc. Admittedly, lately, the software upgrades have improved things signficantly.
  2. Aug 21, 2007 #22 of 319

    stevel Dumb Blond TCF Club

    Aug 23, 2000
    Nashua, NH
    My HR20 is dead silent (other than the gentle whir of the disk.) You're hearing hard disk seek noise which can vary among drives.
  3. Aug 21, 2007 #23 of 319

    stevmead It's Just TV

    Oct 21, 2002
    The OC
    Keep your HR10 until:
    1. Quality of D's HD content improves (maybe 2015!)
    2. HR20 includes dual buffers (again, maybe 2015)

    I'm in no rush to get more garbage. Can't wait to see the posts complaining about how poor the new HD channels are.
  4. Aug 21, 2007 #24 of 319

    CosmoKramer New Member

    Jan 22, 2007
  5. Aug 21, 2007 #25 of 319

    tfederov M GO BLUE!!!

    Jul 6, 2003
    Plano, TX


    Love mine. All four are up, running, and networked so I can stream my pics and music from my PC to them. I've had no issues in almost a year.
  6. Aug 22, 2007 #26 of 319

    ebonovic has gone his way...

    Jul 24, 2001
    You are optomistic
  7. Aug 22, 2007 #27 of 319

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    Columbia, MD
    To get to todo list on Tivo. Shortest method: Two clicks (Menu and 2).

    To get to todo list on HR20. Shortest method: Two clicks (List and Yellow).

    Just thought you'd like to know.
  8. Aug 22, 2007 #28 of 319

    billyd88 New Member

    Aug 6, 2003
    Tampa, Fl.

    While I only have two of them right now. I can also say that they are issue free!
  9. Aug 22, 2007 #29 of 319

    HiDefGator New Member

    Oct 12, 2004
    Mine record and play back shows just like my Tivo's did. I'm not sure what there is to not like about them.
  10. Aug 22, 2007 #30 of 319

    JMikeD Member

    Jun 10, 2002
    Austin, TX
    The only thing I dislike about the HR20 is that it has to search one item at a time instead of displaying all the items on the Wishlist at the same time as the Tivo does. Otherwise, it's a wash (to me).
  11. Aug 22, 2007 #31 of 319

    Todd Gee thanks Jeremy...

    Oct 7, 1999
    If that's the case, then the people at DirecTV are deaf idiots.

  12. Aug 23, 2007 #32 of 319

    stivovance New Member

    Feb 12, 2003
    It took 10 to get 3 activated and up and running.

    So far, I've had 1 missed recording in about a month of use. Up until recently, haven't had that issue with my hr10 running 6.3c. This will become a more pressing issue when the hr20 won't have a backup that can record mpeg4 programming. For now, have the hr10 and dsr704 backing each other up.

    Yes, menus are different, nothing shocking there.

    I wish there was a way to turn off the in menu video. The whole point of having a dvr is that I can watch something later. I know I'm not alone in the fact come fall tv season, you turn on the tv and want to start watching a show that's recorded, only to find out who the killer is or the big plot reveal for the week because of this gem of a feature, it's going to make me more than angry. Yes, it's neat, but the novelty wore off after about 10 mins of thinking about how it's going to affect my tv watching. So far, I've programmed my harmony 880 to auto pause, list and mute (just in case it misses those first 2 commands) in hopes that it doesn't ruin the whole point of recording a show to watch and enjoy later. However, with the limit of no in activity macros, it's only limited to turning on the tv the first time. Once you are done with a show, it's still hard to have to remember to hit the pause button before going to your now showing list.

    dual buffers, don't see the argument here, record 2 shows and move on. I use my dvr as just that, a dvr about 99.9% of the time so the live tv thing I've gotten over about 6 years ago.

    I do enjoy the 30 sec skip button, I've come to appreciate it.

    How it handles getting to the end of a recording with the quick forward button, that needs serious overhauling. Even when you "get" to the end of a recording, it still plays so you still have to hit it again before you get the delete/keep message.

    I have watched all but 1 show in the past month on the hr20, sort of a tivo-deprogramming if you will to get ready for the fall season. The SD and HD tivos are backups for now. I don't fully trust the HR20 to record everything at this point, BUT I also can't count on the HR10's either with the wacky guide data issues (directv's doing) so I'm hoping it gets as stable and reliable as the HR10 has been for the past 2 years.

    The one unexpected benefit was SD shows look much better, which makes the compression issues a bit more tolerable.

    I enjoy the consistent quickness of the unit and menu performance.

    Overall, I'd give it a B+. If (for me) the in menu video could get turned off, just a slightly more fluid, user friendly menu system and reliability of recordings, I'd be very pleased.
  13. Aug 23, 2007 #33 of 319

    Directvlover Go Huskers!

    Apr 12, 2004
    I was a little hesitant at first to get the HR20 because i loved the tivo so much...but after having had it for awhile, i got to's fine. Sure tivo makes everything look and feel a little prettier, plus they have those little familiar sounds that it makes when you navigate through it that the HR20 is missing, but really as far as functionality's fact it's a little faster. For example when you want to set up a recording, you just press record and it's done....with the tivo I would press record and always have to wait sometimes up to 20 or so seconds for it to finally confirm.

    Bottom line...i've gotten used to the HR20, it's easy to navigate, it does the job....i still have my HR10-250 Tivo hooked up in another room so i'm using both still. But i'd say i almost like the HR20 a little better. And since it's going to get me tons more HD channels very soon...i love it even more.
  14. Aug 23, 2007 #34 of 319

    AVPhan New Member

    Oct 20, 2004
    Piece of crap.

    Not cause I am a Tivo guy, It's cause the programmers or whoever wrote the specs for the programmer to code who has no clue on what Users Friendly is all about.

    My issues with it:

    Had it for a month, already resets 6 times. Numerous empty recordings. Video Drop Outs. Networking issue (still had not time to dig into it yet, plus it's not worth it for me yet).

    I am on a list of recordings and in a folder of 10 items, check the last one, repeat, delete, then had to go thru whole nine yard of list, folder, down to the bottom to check the next one.

    eSata is a joke. What kind of a programmer to enble the feature to "TOTALLY REPLACE THE INTERNAL HARDDISK?"

    Unfortunately, I have to take one for: New Channels and more tuner to record (too many conflicts now on my HR10).
  15. Aug 23, 2007 #35 of 319

    stevel Dumb Blond TCF Club

    Aug 23, 2000
    Nashua, NH
    Just select the folder and press the dash key to delete the whole folder

    I like it that way, and so do those who keep multiple disks on hand and swap them in as needed. With the TiVo way, if the external disk is removed, you're hosed until it's replaced and you can't add a different disk. I'll agree that there are disadvantages too, but overall I prefer the DirecTV approach.
  16. Aug 23, 2007 #36 of 319

    AVPhan New Member

    Oct 20, 2004
    I don't want to delete the whole folder yet. Just one and then go to next one to watch.

    I understand it's by opinion, but based on mine, it should be just like an external disk to a computer, you add it on, it would only store data (recording). If filled up, buy a new one, and plug it in. Later when you want to watch things on it, plug it back in.
  17. Aug 23, 2007 #37 of 319

    stevel Dumb Blond TCF Club

    Aug 23, 2000
    Nashua, NH
    Well, TiVo's doesn't work that way on the S3.
  18. Aug 24, 2007 #38 of 319

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    Columbia, MD
    Coming soon to a national release is the ability to just hit the red button to delete something in the list.

    There is also group play, where you can hit play on the folder and it will remember what you watched and where you were next time you go in.

    Anyway, I don't understand what you were saying. Deleting single items out of the folder is easy.

    The reason it is done that way is because you could distribute programming all over the place. This is the new industry standard for add-on disks. Not just a D* thing.

    Although as far as I can tell, you can do exactly what you are saying. The only thing that won't work is that it will not store on the internal disk as well as the external. You can fill up a disk, swap out a new one and go back to the old one later. I just don't think it is hot swap.

    BTW, you should go to I think you could learn a few tricks.
  19. Aug 24, 2007 #39 of 319

    Martyp Just a Daddyman

    Jan 6, 2004
    sf bay area
    Well have the new hd dvr here along with the dirctv dvr with tivo. I have both of them hooked up and miss the down arrow to switch tuners . Some days when I am just laying around around on a satruday it as nice to sat but on discovery and use the other tuner to flip channels. Then just flop back and forth between two shows.

    But like being able to record 4 shows at a time now and the ablity to record ove the air hd wich is more then are directv . Which is missing channel 9 hd or 9.1 as it is over the air
  20. Aug 24, 2007 #40 of 319

    Cubfan Returning User

    Aug 19, 2000
    Bloomington, IL
    No issues here. Don't have "bloops" and the antenna guy.

    Have a fast menu and guide, reliable recordings, no bugs or reboots (so far). Wish I could say the same about my recent experience with the DirecTivo.

    Oh, and now I have my "local" channels all in HD, including Cubs games.

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