So What do think abou the HR20?

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by JoeAverage, Aug 20, 2007.

  1. Jeremy517

    Jeremy517 New Member

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    Just because the majority say they'd prefer a TiVo doesn't mean that they dislike their HR20s. Most people seem to find it very close between the two. Most people who say they prefer the TiVo say that it just has a slight edge. Most people who say they prefer the HR-20 says it just has a slight edge. You're making it sound like most people would get out of their commitments because they hate the HR-20, which simply isn't true.
     
  2. Mike Lang

    Mike Lang Administrator Staff Member Administrator TCF Club

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    After a month of trying to like my HR20, it's been designated as the red-headed stepchild of the home theater used only to record what the TiVo HD and HR10-250 can't.
     
  3. tlrowley

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    I'm with you, Mike. I want to like the HR20 - I love the new Mpeg4 channels - but the box itself is making it very difficult to like it. I can't remember ever missing a recording on my (fully upgraded & hacked) HR10s - I've had reboots (that seem disk based), but never just an outright refusal to record, like I get on the HR20. I've had so many "unexpected error (3)" that they're not unexpected anymore! I'd accept the clunky interface, and the lack of DLB, but a DVR has got to record reliably, and the HR20 simply doesn't.

    The HR20 is now my L&O:CI (on USAHD) and Stargate: Atlantis (on SciFiHD) box.

    Tracey
     
  4. Rigelian

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    I've always wondered about the unexpected error problem, I've had two when I first got the HR20 and then none ever since. However, the biggest non-recording error I got was the someone in the household cancelled your program error that I got with the HR10-250. That one drove me crazy.
     
  5. milominderbinder

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    This is exactly the solution that many are taking.

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  6. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Done.

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    If you are getting "unexpected errors" then PLEASE go to DBSTalk and report it. Give as much detail as you can. There is a dedicated sticky thread in the CE forum to try to track this issue down. While I personally have never seen it there are some users that have had it. Doesn't appear to be massively widespread but it's still a problem. DirecTV wants all the details so they can try to track it down. For the most part I think it's fubar guide data but the HR20 is choking on it which means DirecTV needs to figure out why and fix it (either the guide data, HR20 or both). Only by reporting it can they do that.

    So again, please, any problems like this please report on DBSTalk with tons of details as requested in that thread.
     
  7. jaypb

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    Since June, I've only used my HR20 for channels I CAN NOT get on my 4 HDTIVO's OR if I can't FIT anything else on my other Tivos (SD or HD).

    I'm sure it'll be more of the same for now...until I either lose an HDTIVO due to age/failure or some newer features/functionality come to the HR20.
     
  8. AVPhan

    AVPhan New Member

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    +1.

    If it wasn't of:
    1. Investment on HR10 (Paid full price when first came out) + additional disk.
    2. Needs MLB EI and ST.

    I would have gone else where.
     
  9. RS4

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    I see a lot of posts like the four or so above this complaining. I'm not making up the numbers - read almost any thread with significant responses and I'm sure you'd come to the same conclusion. I believe there are around 20% that don't like it at all.
    I think there are somewhere around another 20% with the sentiments expressed above. That to me is a strong dislike.

    The thing is, DirecTV gave us Tivos that many of us like, and according to what I read here and elsewhere, their current offering does not improve (and in many minds does not even match) on the Tivo. So, that means Tivo users are locking in for 2 more years with equipment that they don't like as well as the Tivo.

    I think a more reflective poll would be:

    How do you think the HR20 relates to the HR10-250?
    It's better - I don't need the Tivo
    It's terrible - give me back my Tivo
    It's the only game in town for mpeg4
    Keep the Tivo, only use HR20 for mpeg4
    Keep the Tivo, record everything on it (that is possible) and also on the HR20
    It's okay - I'm neutral
    No opinion
     
  10. JohnB1000

    JohnB1000 Well-Known Member

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    Your asking a different question there though RS4. If the question is "do you prefer the HR10" it's quite different than "Is the HR20 a good enough unit for the new channels"

    If you ask the right question you'll always get the right answer.

    + once more, asking a community populated by TIVO users (here and DBSTALK) is not balanced.
     
  11. fasTLane

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    FWIW, Cnet user ratings gave the DirecTivo a 5.8/10 vs. a 4.2/10 for the HR20... not that it matters.
     
  12. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    That raiting for the HR20, also goes back to the very first day of the HR20...

    And the box today... is no where near the same as it was 14 months ago... nor 9 months ago, or even 6 months ago.

    Same can be said for the DTiVo, to a marginal degree.. (it hasn't gone through as much transition since it's releases, and the poling started)
     
  13. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    Yes... some are... but there are also a LOT that are no where near being current.
     
  14. nrc

    nrc Cracker Soul

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    If you do the math for the last month or two the rating is actually even worse than average. The ratings on CNET do not support the claim that the HR20 is getting any better. I imagine some helpful folks will make a point to "correct" that now. ;)
     
  15. JohnB1000

    JohnB1000 Well-Known Member

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    A lot of imagining going on
     
  16. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    That's the magic of anonymous voting systems....

    You can vote it high to change the numbers.... or you can vote it low... to try and bring them down...
     
  17. nrc

    nrc Cracker Soul

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    There's really nothing in the recent CNET reviews to date that suggests that anyone has made a deliberate effort to influence the numbers.
     
  18. fasTLane

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    I can agree there. The recent counts are too low to suggest "campaigning". ;)
     

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