So, in reality who will buy this insanely priced S3 box?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by terryjohnson16, Sep 12, 2006.

How many will buy the S3 box?

  1. I will eventhough this is my rent money

    19.5%
  2. I will think about it since my Wife(or husband) will kill me when the find out

    10.8%
  3. Its not worth $800 plus the service fees.

    36.8%
  4. Never, I will stick with the Series 2 boxes.

    2.2%
  5. I will because I've got the money and I want a S3

    30.7%
  1. pkscout

    pkscout Well-Known Member

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    I'm wondering if you could develop answer options more biased than the ones you included. Here are some suggestions:

    I will even though I have to take my father off life support to pay for it.
    I will, and I even killed a kitten for money to pay for it.
    I will, and I embezzled money from my company to buy it.

    This poll is kind of like that age old conundrum of how to answer the question, "When did you stop beating your wife?"

    My pet peeve plea. If you're going to do a poll, try and have the options be at least a little unbiased.
     
  2. tunnelengineer

    tunnelengineer New Member

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    amen. go duke!!
     
  3. classicX

    classicX Don't scream.

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    I believe he was referring to the fact that you answered the poll yet are calling it stupid.

    Pot calling the kettle black, and all that. I don't really see why participating in a poll that you think is stupid is hypocritical.

    This is why when I made the SAME POLL I included generic answers, and also one for "I just want to see the results."

    And the poll options are obviously biased.
     
  4. eisenb11

    eisenb11 Member

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    Since, Tivo is supposedly aiming that at the "high-end" crowd, I wonder if us automators can unite and ask Tivo to add the ability to control the unit via ethernet (since is has no RS232 ports).

    The device doesn't have to support bi-directional communication. Uni-directional transmissions over TCP would be enough to at least guarantee delivery of the command and the installer doesn't have to worry about unsightly IR repeaters and distribution devices laying around.

    Ideally, ofcourse, is bi-directional communication where we could get EPG data, the list of recorded shows, etc for full control via automation...

    It would really be a shame to have to go IR on such a neat device! :)
     
  5. GoHokies!

    GoHokies! O2->CO2 Converter

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    HA!

    You'll get you change when basketball season starts ;)
     
  6. Ereth

    Ereth Unemployed Bum

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    Why not? The price has been rumored to be near $1000 since it was announced at CES a year ago. Why wouldn't someone in their right might expect that?

    And as for losing Tivo-to-Go... those of us on the DirecTV side have never HAD Tivo-to-go so it doesn't seem like a loss to us.

    The only way to get the kind of quality this box has was to go to DirecTV and the satellite-specific boxes. I signed up for DTV specifically because of the Dual-Tuner DirecTivo. I cancelled cable for it.

    Now, DirecTV doesn't like TiVo any more and even though we have the HR10-250 which can record HDTV we know its days are numbered.

    And here comes TiVo with a new box which will do everything our DirecTV boxes will do, only on cable, which isn't switching to MPEG4 and obsoleting our expensive receivers, and with a box that has a future, that has the potential for a lot of new features that none of the DirecTV boxes will ever see.

    Those of you in the Standalone world are looking at it differently than we are. To us, this is exactly what we need, a way to get the perfect quality, dual-tuner HDTV experience, without being forced to use a crappy NDS box.

    Expect to see a thundering herd of DirecTiVo customers calling their cable company over the next few months/years.
     
  7. lynesjc

    lynesjc New Member

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    This is one of the key questions for the future of Tivo in my mind. How many D* customers will churn to stay with Tivo? Between SD and HD, it's a fairly sizeable group.

    For myself, I haven't decided yet. Charter doesn't have ESPN2HD yet so that's a deal breaker.

    3 options:

    1. S3 with Charter.
    2. Fisher Price toy dvr from D*
    3. Vista pc w/ cc's.

    I think many of us will stay with our hr10-250's until D* forces our hand.
     
  8. Sirshagg

    Sirshagg Member

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    +1
     
  9. mgar

    mgar New Member

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    I was going to wait and see if MRV is added; however, I will buy one before the end of the year, regardless of MRV, because of the lifetime transfer option.
     
  10. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    I'll actually come pretty close to breaking even. $1100 for the box and the three year service, and since I'll be going from DirecTV (for SD) and cable (for HD) to just cable, I'll be saving around $25-30 per month, plus half-off for the first three months.
     
  11. hefe

    hefe Rebus Philbin

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    I bought an HD-TiVo at full price when it came out. (Although customer retention at D* gave me a credit on my programming, which helped.)

    If I didn't already have that, I'd be all over the S3.
     
  12. Ereth

    Ereth Unemployed Bum

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    I agree with that, I just suspect that, excepting "NFL Sunday Ticket" subscribers, the mass exodus will occur when D* DOES force our hand.

    In my own case, I'm not planning on turning my HR10-250 off, I'll turn off my Hughes Series 2 DTivo. The real question will be where do I get the majority of my programming. I can get the minimal HD from the cableco for $12/month more than I pay now (I have a cablemodem). Depending on what I see from the S3 it may be that I gradually turn stuff off on DTV and turn the same stuff on on the cable. It may be that eventually the HR10-250 becomes OTA only once everything moves to MPEG-4.
     
  13. wmccain

    wmccain Custom AV Consultant

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    Yes, I do understand that. And I've known since January (CES) that the Series3 wouldn't have A/V inputs.

    Actually, I'd have been happy with just one HD encoder (i.e., a single component input that could be used, perhaps concurrently with antenna or cable input). And I would be a "people who would pay" for it. (In fact, I will likely buy two of the rack-mount HR20P "Pro" models from DirecTV, at $1500 each.)

    Does any manufacturer offer a DVR with an HD A/V input? Sony?
     
  14. RCflier

    RCflier In The Dark

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    you can find "cheap" capture cards such as This, and build your own.. I don't know why TiVo or any other manufacturer would leave out the ability, with such a low price.

    *note sarcasm*
     
  15. propermodulation

    propermodulation Member

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    Hmmm now that I spend all that money on a Porche I don't think I can afford the premium gas!!!
     
  16. Stormspace

    Stormspace Electrocuted by TiVo

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    Uhmmm.

    Cable DVR=Premium Gas

    Tivo S3 = Premium Gas with additives
     
  17. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I disagree. I think the Cable DVR is more like the cheap gas from the no name quickie mart. It might work just fine, but it might also freeze in your gas lines and make it so your car wont start. :)

    Dan
     
  18. Stormspace

    Stormspace Electrocuted by TiVo

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    No the cheapie gas is the S1 with no MRV, HME, and no dual tuners.

    At least the cable DVR has dual tuners and HD, so you have to read the label before using that gas. :)
     
  19. Janizary

    Janizary New Member

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    Long time TiVO forums lurker, but first time posting.

    I will be getting one and tranferring my LT sub from my series 2. Expensive? Yes. Worth it? Probably not, but I can afford it and I want one for the HT.
     
  20. btwyx

    btwyx Substantive Member

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    :up: +1
     

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