So are you happy?

Discussion in 'VirginMedia TV with TiVo - UK' started by Muttley1900, Mar 29, 2011.

  1. passingbat

    passingbat New Member

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    I can assure you, there were/are a lot of non S1 owners who would have been happy to be, 'taken advantage of', if given the opportunity. And they would have gladly paid the 149 pounds.

    You were one of the 'fortunte few', so complaints ring a little hollow to those who 'wanted but couldn't have'.
     
  2. mikerr

    mikerr TiVoCentral.co.uk

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    AIUI it's TiVo doing the Virgin box software development, not VM.

    Given the userbase VM represents (4 Million TV subs) vs TiVo total worldwide subscribers (2 Million)
    - I'd say its important to TiVo to get it right ;)
     
  3. Meng

    Meng New Member

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    Ditto.

    Overall I'm happy with mine, but that sodding PIN ...
     
  4. The Wishlist

    The Wishlist VM TiVo Blog

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    The VM version of the software is a minor branch of TiVo's development map, so, with any luck, we shouldn't miss out on anything major. For example, sticking to TiVo's dev. map means that we get the iPad app.
     
  5. The Wishlist

    The Wishlist VM TiVo Blog

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    Oh yeah - I'll be happy with VM TiVo when VM let me have one.
     
  6. Brangdon

    Brangdon New Member

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    None of the things I mentioned are bugs.

    The poor guide layout was designed to be like that, and I don't expect it to change. We might get the option of the old layout, but I doubt it: the US TiVos have both guide layouts so someone must have chosen to remove the old one from ours deliberately. (Similarly with other UI mistakes, like making the Discovery Bar waste a fifth of the screen with no way to turn it off.)

    The slow UI speed is a consequence of the choice to implement it in Flash, and as such isn't a bug either. I imagine they see Flash as a strategic feature to make writing apps easier. They aren't about to rewrite the UI in a proper language, and I doubt they'll switch to a faster implementation of Flash, either. They've not even bothered to produce HD versions of half the menus. It's been like this since Series 4 came out a year ago in the USA.

    The PIN issue is by design too. As is their removing the ability to delete channels.

    Apple aren't perfect, but they do produce devices that are a pleasure to use. Don't get hung up on my mention of that particular company. As it happens I don't own any of their products. I have an Android phone, and it too is a delight. It's not just Apple, it's what consumers expect nowadays.

    I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not expecting these things to get fixed.

    Ultimately it's the content that matters, the TV programmes, not the UI, and the problems can be lived with. It's still a huge disappointment to see that after 10 years they've got worse rather than better.
     
  7. nbaker

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    Its pretty obvious the VM Tivo dev team never actually used a series 1 for any length of time, which is a pity as this would then of been almost perfect if they hadn't messed around withit so much.
     
  8. geekspeak

    geekspeak New Member

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    The fact that they haven't fixed the on-screen clock, 3 days into British Summer Time does not inspire confidence. (albeit that recordings are generally not affected) The bug with the 3rd tuner suggests they are releasing software that has not been well tested as does at least one of the other few minor items that has only been half "fixed". However I was led to believe (rightly or wrongly) there will be a major bug fix release before the end of March and we have had updates on each of the last two Thursday mornings, so I will reserve judgement for at least a couple more days. That said, we do seem to have many of the same bugs that have been reported for many months in the US and there is no sign of them being fixed.

    EDIT: It is being said elsewhere that there might NOT be another update for a few weeks. :eek:
     
  9. tdenson

    tdenson New Member

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    Nobody twisted my arm to pay the £149. I am more than happy to be a Beta tester for a product that even in Beta is head and shoulders above anything else.
     
  10. howardmicks

    howardmicks VM Tivo User

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    yer i am hearing a couple of weeks before the next update,Personally thought they would have had another before the official launch date on monday
     
  11. Brangdon

    Brangdon New Member

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    I think most of the VM TiVo UI is the same as the USA Series 4 design, which came out in America about a year ago, and presumably pre-dates any VM involvement. I've been reading some US threads, and they have had similar problems. One difference is that they have the option to go back to the old SD UI, which a lot of them do because it's faster.

    Their box has a dual core CPU, but as far as I can tell TiVo never managed to get the second core to work. You can find a lot of early reviews saying it's slow now but it'll get faster; but a year has gone by and it's still slow. I don't know if our box has dual cores.
     
  12. cwaring

    cwaring VM Tivo User

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    Just to clarify that, to the best of my knowledge, VM do not touch the Tivo code-based in any way, shape or form. It's all done by Tivo themselves.

    Also, both my clocks are right :confused:
     
  13. Karnak

    Karnak 'Local'

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    Perhaps I wasn't that clear. I wouldn't expect VM to be doing work to the software themselves but I would expect them to have to contribute financially and with help testing for any work that needs to be done specifically to enhance VM TiVos.

    In much the same way that mobile phone carriers have to contribute resources if they want updated ROMs for carrier branded phones.
     
  14. Fixerman

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    What is the aspect ratio problem? I haven't heard of this one before.:confused:
     
  15. deshepherd

    deshepherd New Member

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    Overall I'm very happy ... had had an S1 for ~10 years and opportunity to move to something newer was brilliant. Yes, there are a few minor issues (though, I've not had any experience of it rebooting + I think I've only had one instance of a "lockup" ... it sat on red ring for a couple of minutes so I switched to freeview and when I came back to TiVo 30mins later it had sorted it self out. PIN is the main annoyance but can be lived with. However, any of the slight issues to my mind are worth it in return for a TiVo that can be guaranteed to record the program from the channel you requested .... on the old S1+dongle->V-box setup I recon around 5% of recordings were missed due to a botched channel change compounded by the fact that the standard mode of failure was STB registering first digit twice which meant recordings on the "main" 10x channels ended up on 110 which changed from Living to LivingHD a year or so ago and resulted in the STB being locked on a "you don't have HD, phone xxxyyyzxzzz to upgrade, press ok on remote if you want to watch anything other than this screen" display.

    N.b. on subject of "beta testing" .... I seem to remember that a few months after S1 became available in the UK all subscribers were offered the opportunity to complete a feedback questionaire ... so were we all beta testers then? Though, we did, in return for sending in feedback, get sent the TiVo beanie toy! Mine's still standing on a wall mounted speaker above the TV and tivo!
     
  16. cwaring

    cwaring VM Tivo User

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  17. Fixerman

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  18. justen_m

    justen_m Cheesehead

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    No. Very unhappy.
     
  19. cwaring

    cwaring VM Tivo User

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    Well, given you're in the US there's not a lot we can do about it :p
     
  20. TCM2007

    TCM2007 New Member

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    I didn't. But then I was on the actual beta terst for 2.5.5!
     

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