Smash "Pilot" (2/6/2012, Spoilers)

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  1. Feb 7, 2012 #1 of 57
    LoadStar

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    (This was previously discussed as a part of the pre-air VOD, but that thread wasn't marked as a spoiler thread... and some people chose to watch it OTA instead of on VOD.)

    My thoughts from that thread:
    Watched it again OTA. A couple of additional things I noticed:

    I hadn't noticed the first time that "Karen" changed the lyrics for her audition piece, "Beautiful," to make it fit better to Marilyn Monroe. Nice touch.

    I don't quite get the infatuation the one writer has with Ivy Lynn. If it wasn't made pretty clear in the show that he's gay, I'd say he had a thing for her.

    I still think Megan Hilty overacted a bit, but I did like her in the scene in the kitchen where she's trying to get some acknowledgement from her mother, who basically blows her off. I wouldn't blame Ivy for guzzling the rest of the bottle of wine she was drinking after that conversation.

    Still hate the baseball number, but that's because I'm more of a fan of the modern, more pop music-oriented shows than the traditional Broadway musicals, and that seems like a bit of a throwback number.
     
  2. Feb 7, 2012 #2 of 57
    LoadStar

    LoadStar LOAD"*",8,1

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    Fast overnights showed this show hit a home run, with a 3.8/10 and 11.50 million viewers in the demographic, easily winning the timeslot. NBC also easily won the night, thanks to an extremely strong second episode of "The Voice."

    Looks like we can't count NBC out quite yet...
     
  3. Feb 7, 2012 #3 of 57
    Langree

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    A little historical placement for you, Monroe married Joe DiMaggio in 1954. So "throwback" style is fitting.
     
  4. Feb 7, 2012 #4 of 57
    nirisahn

    nirisahn Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I also think the baseball number fit. I hate when they do something that's supposed to take place on one era, but choreograph it really modern. Sometimes the whole play is very stylistic (like Pippin and Spamalot) and then modern works. But something like this really needs to feel 50s.
     
  5. Feb 7, 2012 #5 of 57
    LoadStar

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    Just because something takes place in the 50s doesn't mean it has to have the style of musicals of the 50s. IMO, of course. It could instead have the style of any form of music from that era (pop, rock, country, bluegrass, whatever), or it could be set then but with a more contemporary musical sound.

    (Note that I'm not particularly a musical aficionado, so I don't know if the baseball song really is in the style of musicals from the 50s. All I know is it sounds like a more traditional, less contemporary musical, and thus I'm not at all a fan.)
     
  6. Feb 7, 2012 #6 of 57
    Langree

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    It was very much in the "bigger than life" style of 50's musicals.

    Also, that was early 50's, just prior to the outbreak of Rock 'N Roll.
     
  7. Feb 7, 2012 #7 of 57
    mattack

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    Was the premiere at all different from the downloadable ep? I highly doubt it, but I do believe in the past, in other sneak preview types of instances, there HAVE been changes.
     
  8. Feb 7, 2012 #8 of 57
    LoadStar

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    Not that I could see. The downloaded version had an extended preview of the upcoming season at the end, but otherwise, it seemed to be the same.
     
  9. Feb 7, 2012 #9 of 57
    gossamer88

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    I thought the baseball number was terrific.
     
  10. nyny523

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    I thought the whole thing was pretty terrific!
     
  11. jlb

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    Kat McPhee :up: :up:
     
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    That was the most un-funny episode of Will and Grace I have ever seen.
     
  13. Steveknj

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    My wife liked it, I didn't watch. As someone who doesn't like Glee, is there ANYTHING that would appeal to me?
     
  14. Jagman_sl

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    I guess that depends on what your problem with Glee is. Do you dislike productions that have singing and dancing, or do you just dislike the high school setting and general silliness?

    I think it's unfortunate that Smash and Glee are going to be compared, even though the reason they're compared is obvious. To me they're very different beasts that happen to share a similar feature, the singing. But tonally (at least based on the pilot for Smash) they're very different shows.
     
  15. Steveknj

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    The reason I don't like Glee...is all of the above. I'm not adverse to "musicals" that might appeal to the typical heterosexual male (I'm not trying to be misogynistic, just certain types of shows appeal to certain types of people generally speaking), I always liked West Side Story, and Fiddler on the Roof appeals to me because of my heritage, and Grease is always fun (and I guess in some respect, Glee could be compared to Grease). So I leave it to you, if you don't want to compare it to Glee, what would be most similar to Smash (TV, movie or broadway show wise). My first thoughts, was A Chorus Line or Fame which my wife made me sit through and was ready to poke my eyes out within 20 minutes, but she loved it.
     
  16. Ereth

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    I loved it. I liked the baseball number quite a lot.

    And I don't watch Glee.
     
  17. LoadStar

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    This show is primarily a drama. It happens, by the nature of being set on Broadway, to also feature singing. From what we've seen so far, unlike on Glee, the songs neither drive the plot nor take precedence over the plot. They have a very specific storyline (the creation of a Broadway musical) and a couple of side stories (for example, one of the writers trying to adopt a kid) that they seem to want to accomplish.

    In some ways, this is similar to A Chorus Line, in that the first episode features casting of a part in a Broadway show. Stylistically, however, it's quite different. The show is *about* a musical, but isn't a musical (per se). There don't appear to be people bursting out in song unnaturally. In some ways, I'd think of it like "Sports Night," which happened to be set at a sports news show, but isn't about sports or news. (EDIT: A better example is ER. You can watch that show even if you don't know anything about medicine.)

    I'd say watch the first episode... if you're intrigued, you can keep watching; if you're immediately turned off, you can stop watching. :)
     
  18. busyba

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    I would kill for Jack Davenport's apartment. :eek:

    Megan Hilty has a face for theater. Not so much for TV. :)

    During the baseball number, they were slightly, ahem, suggestive with the bats. :D
     
  19. WhiskeyTango

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    NBC execs said earlier that this wasn't a make or break show for them, yet the Pilot is being reaired at least 10 times across at least 6 different channels this week.

    I've watched the first half hour or so and I'm on the fence. I may give it another week or two to decide for sure.
     
  20. busyba

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    I suspect this is going to be an expensive show to make, so it is going to need really high ratings to make it.
     

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