Smallville - 1/26 - Reckoning

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  1. Jan 27, 2006 #21 of 111

    gchance 4 8 15 16 23 42

    Dec 6, 2002
    Olivehurst, CA


    Man I couldn't agree with you more. The whole first reality thing, everything was such a setup and predictable.

    Why the hell was Lionel Luthor allowed at the funeral anyway? Seeing him there made me feel like I did when my dad's ex-wife was at his funeral, hugging my aunts & uncles as my mom and us kids drove away in our car...

    "I Grieve" by Peter Gabriel. God, what a powerful song.

  2. Jan 27, 2006 #22 of 111

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003
    Another thing I thought of while watching: There's no way Lana could ever know Clark's secret because she's such a horrible actress that everyone would be able to tell that she was keeping something from them and she'd never be able to protect the secret. Just like Lex picked up on it right away, that's the way she'd be around everyone, pausing just long enough before answering questions that she'd give away the secret in no time.
  3. Jan 27, 2006 #23 of 111

    nellee New Member

    May 26, 2002
    San Francisco

    wouldn't that make her a good actress for being able to play that role like that? :rolleyes:

    Which reality are you in??? :confused:
  4. Jan 27, 2006 #24 of 111

    KungFuCow Thread Killer

    May 6, 2004
    Kristin, is that you?
  5. Jan 27, 2006 #25 of 111

    JYoung Series 3

    Jan 16, 2002
    Los Angeles


    I had thought about halfway in when everything was too perfect that it was a simulation that Clark and Jor-El were running in the Fortress.

    Ahhh well, I had hoped they would follow the comics and keep Jonathan Kent around longer.
    He was certainly more interesting than Lana.
  6. Jan 27, 2006 #26 of 111

    Sinuralan Fair and Balanced

    Dec 27, 2001
    Bleh. Well executed but I didn't like the story at all. We know they're never going to let us have any 'satisfaction' in the relationship between Clark and Lana, so having him tell her, be happy, and then kill her off worked well. Instead we get more Lana/Clark torture and lose Bo. What a rip.
  7. Jan 27, 2006 #27 of 111

    hanumang Active Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    Pittsburgh, PA
    You took the words right outta my mouth.

    Actually, come to think of it, I think the real problem with the episode was that it peaked in the middle. It would have been another thing if Clark did the whole reset thing to save Jonathon, only to lose Lana. But it wasn't to be.

    While I don't hate Lana like most of ya'll - hey, Clark is only 18, I can understand his thing for her - I think killing her off would have really made Smallville standout. Oh well.
  8. Jan 27, 2006 #28 of 111
    David Platt

    David Platt Mouse Master TCF Club

    Dec 13, 2001
    Portland, OR
    First 30 minutes: A

    Second 30 minutes: C-
  9. Jan 27, 2006 #29 of 111
    David Platt

    David Platt Mouse Master TCF Club

    Dec 13, 2001
    Portland, OR
    Come on, it's quite obvious-- look at her user name!

    It's Nell, Lana's long-lost aunt! :D
  10. Jan 27, 2006 #30 of 111

    Graymalkin Grumpy Poster

    Mar 20, 2001
    Wow, there's no love lost for Lana or Kristin Kreuk in this room, is there? :D The only female character I can think of who inspires nearly as much loathing is, of course, Marissa Cooper from The O.C.
  11. Jan 27, 2006 #31 of 111

    yaddayaddayadda New Member

    Apr 8, 2003
    Fort Mill, SC
    I can tell you if they killed Chloe, I would have stopped watching.
  12. Jan 27, 2006 #32 of 111

    mrpope Well-Known Member

    Jan 13, 2006
    when a senator dies, dosen't a family member take his place?
  13. Jan 27, 2006 #33 of 111

    minorthr Your Ad here

    Nov 24, 2001
    I think so.

    This episode would have been a lot better if they had just killed lana and lex saw clark zoom in. Also as someone stated earlier what was with the pics of clark carrying Jonathan into the fortress from that french site?
  14. Jan 27, 2006 #34 of 111
    Chandler Mike

    Chandler Mike Lost

    Mar 29, 2002
    Chandler, AZ
    I really feel like a lot of you...that once he went back to change time, the episode was ruined for me.

    It felt really right all the way up to that. I think Lana dying would have been big...very big...for Clark. Let him really feel tragedy...

    Not to mention that Lex would suddenly become his enemy for that.

    But of course, Lex saw him run up super-fast, so we knew it would change.

    Sucks though...makes sense Pa Kent would be the one to die, just like in the movie...but Lana dying just felt better to me.

    Once it changed...the episode left a sour taste in my mouth.
  15. Jan 27, 2006 #35 of 111

    HIHZia Mad Turk

    Nov 3, 2004
    Oklahoma City
    I laughed out loud when Clark squeezed the coal and got not only a diamond, but a perfectly cut one at that! :)
  16. Jan 27, 2006 #36 of 111

    dr_mal It's CWS time

    Mar 21, 2001
    Abingdon, VA
    Well, I liked it. I guess I may as well come out of the closet and say I'd be disappointed if Kristin left the show. She may not be the best actress, but IMHO she's still decent eye candy.

    I'm also a sucker for shows that take a days worth of events, change something at the beginning, and then see what the cascading effects of that one change are. Kind of "It's A Wonderful Life"-lite.

    I'll miss Pa Kent, but wasn't surprised at all it was him. I'm a little disappointed in myself for believing the interviews with (Gough|Miller?) where they said the person who dies will be a big surprise and wasn't hinted at at all.
  17. Jan 27, 2006 #37 of 111

    sp1dey New Member

    Jul 21, 2005
    Personally I loved it. I thought the final minutes with Peter Gabriel playing were as moving as Smallville can get. Don't get me wrong, Lana is a weak char, but pa Kent had to go. He couldn't have been a state Sen. The only thing I wished happened was something to drive Lex a little more mad... they did open the divide between him and Clark, just not the way I had hoped. It was an excellent episode and now the clock is ticking is ticking on Lionel.
  18. Jan 27, 2006 #38 of 111

    Agent86 Registered Lurker

    Jan 18, 2002
    Although I can't say I was thrilled about the episode, I think the way things played out is a critical point in the road of Clark becoming Superman. The whole "Clana" relationship is the hammer that dives the nail of Jor-El and Jonathan's lesson of consequences home for Clark.

    Thus far, despite Jonathan's warnings to the contrary, the consequences of Clark's actions have not been terribly severe. He's done things where his secret has been exposed, only for those people to have their memories erased and other such fun. Sure there have been some bad points, but nothing on the level of losing his father. Jor-El has also tried to teach Clark about consequences, but has mostly failed as well.

    Clark's feelings for Lana were enough to make him want to go back and save her. Jor-El said this would be possible, but at the expense of someone else ("The universe always finds a balance"). Clark, figuring he could save Lana, accepted the deal while forgetting about everyone else.

    So Clark did what he thought would save Lana. He's now changed the timeline. Now Lois becomes the one who should die, but he manages to stumble upon her and save her as well. He's now changed the timeline again. Then he re-saves Lana, changing the timeline a third time. Now his father doesn't stop at the accident and continues home to meet his fate in the thrice altered timeline. Every time he saves someone, someone else becomes the target.

    Clark's mother points out that he probably couldn't have chosen between Lana and Jonathan, and this is a good point. Clark probably isn't ready for a decision of that magnitude yet. The viewer could also be pretty certain that Jonathan would have traded his life for Lana's if given the choice - that's just how Pa Kent was. But now Clark ultimately knows that he is the one that traded his father's life for Lana's. Those weren't his intentions, but they were the consequences. He's now learned that even with all his abilities, and the power of Jor-EL and the fortress, that there are very real and serious consequences to his actions and intentions, as good as they may be. Ultimately this will lead to Clark realizing that he can change the world for the better, but that he must carefully consider his options when doing so.

    Lana dying, and staying dead, would not have hammered home the point that Clark can alter the world with very serious consequences. Although he would have felt a great loss, it ultimately would have boiled down to Clark re-enforcing his belief that knowing his secret harms people. Clark said as much in the fortress when asking Jor-El for help - "This isn't her destiny... it would not have happenned if I didn't tell her".

    It also would have certainly turned Clark against Lex in the way we are used to seeing it in the movies/comics, but Clark isn't ready for that kind of confrontation yet. The concept of "Superman" continues to elude him - right now he's still just Clark Kent.
  19. Jan 27, 2006 #39 of 111

    dtle Well-Known Member

    Dec 12, 2001
    Since Lana/Clark is out of the way, are the writers moving towards Lois/Clark, or are they going to have a little fun with Chloe/Clark first?
  20. Jan 27, 2006 #40 of 111

    yaddayaddayadda New Member

    Apr 8, 2003
    Fort Mill, SC
    Remember, this is the Smallville universe - normal election laws don't apply. Which means Johathans seat is probably given to krypto the dog or Lois......or actually never, ever mentioned again.

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