SkipMode and QuickMode coming to Roamio

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by Bierboy, Nov 24, 2015.

  1. Dec 8, 2015 #61 of 621
    modnar

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    I thought rerunning Guided Setup was pretty unintrusive. It got D4HD working for me.
     
  2. Dec 8, 2015 #62 of 621
    Jed1

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    If I remember correctly the last time I reran guided setup my unit ended rerecording shows that I already recorded and watched. This is bothersome if you have the premium channels as there is multiple showings of the series so you end up getting them rerecorded including any older episodes. I think the TiVo forgets what it previously done.

    When I did this for Margret I ended up in a boot loop and as the unit rebooted it would progress a little further into the restart until finally after the third try it made it to TiVo Central. It was the next morning I tried the delete program guide and To Do list data.
    Right before the unit deleted the data it stated it was applying an update and that lasted 1 minute then it deleted the data. I think the guide data prevents part of the update to install and this causes the watch in HD not to work.

    Maybe I am wrong about what effects rerunning guided setup does as it has been a little over a year since I inadvertently did one.

    You are right about clear and delete everything as the nuclear option as everything is wiped clean. Never had to do that yet.
     
  3. Dec 8, 2015 #63 of 621
    mad.gunsmith

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    no I'm in Texas and i got the QuickMode on my minis attached to a Roamio plus almost a month ago weird
    I got QuickMode on Roamio plus, Roamio pro, and 2 minis but no skipmode yet
     
  4. Dec 9, 2015 #64 of 621
    RoamioJeff

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    I just discovered that QuickMode also works for watching anything in a buffer, and not just scheduled recordings. Cool.
     
  5. Dec 9, 2015 #65 of 621
    crxssi

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    20.5.6 just hit my Roamio. Was so excited about QuickPlay, a feature I had been requesting for years!

    Tried it out and immediately discovered that in QuickPlay, 5.1 surround is reduced to 2 channel stereo, making it utterly uninteresting to me. Color me very disappointed :(
     
  6. Dec 9, 2015 #66 of 621
    gigaguy

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    Hmm, why would you need surround with the altered limited audio of QuickPlay?
     
  7. Dec 9, 2015 #67 of 621
    tim1724

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    In order to output QuickPlay in 5.1, TiVo would need to include a Dolby Digital encoder, but they don't. (This is the same reason you don't get the TiVo button press sound effects when Dolby Digital is enabled; the TiVo would have to re-encode the audio to add them in.)
     
  8. Dec 10, 2015 #68 of 621
    crxssi

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    The same reason I wouldn't want the picture changed to 480i
     
  9. Dec 10, 2015 #69 of 621
    crxssi

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    Perhaps it is a licensing thing, or perhaps not. Doesn't make me want it any less, though.

    Yes, but they they have to downmix 5.1 to 2.0 and then alter it to do what they are doing. I wouldn't think it would be that complex to just leave it in 5.1. Let me put it this way- vlc seems to have no problems changing playback speed while watching and listening to 5.1. I don't think it has a 5.1 encoder and probably isn't re-encoding anything on the fly, just adjusting the playback in the codec.

    Oh, and vnc can adjust the speed faster OR SLOWER in 1% increments, too.
     
  10. Dec 10, 2015 #70 of 621
    jonw747

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    Well, it's 12/10, are the rest of us getting Skip Mode today?
     
  11. Dec 10, 2015 #71 of 621
    samccfl99

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    Took me a while to figure out why the Volume was lower in QuickMode. Finally noticed it changed to PCM. It would be nice if they were able to raise the volume a smidge when in that mode (I would say put it in Options, BUT Tivo don't really believe in User Options very much :rolleyes:). As far as PCM, I would only use it for News and even then it is a bit annoying when people speak fast...LOL. Also I think QuickMode is a bit faster on the Roamio then on my Mini. Anyone else think so?

    As far as SkipMode is concerned, I am a pretty good shot with the FF/REW buttons, so I do not care about it much. Not here yet in S Fla. We shall see.
     
  12. Dec 10, 2015 #72 of 621
    jonw747

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    I accidentally had it on at one point and I thought the people talking were more incomprehensible than I had expected from playing with it on the Mini, but they might have just been talking too fast.
     
  13. Dec 10, 2015 #73 of 621
    modnar

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    I should give QuickMode a shot on any Aaron Sorkin show. :)
     
  14. Dec 10, 2015 #74 of 621
    RoamioJeff

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    I have been using QuickMode almost exclusively, primarily for news and sports. Once you get accustomed to it, the human brain can process speech much faster than normal conversation. I am so used to it now that when I turn it off it the people talking sound
    a-n-n-o-y-i-n-g-l-y___s-l-o-w. But I've been using software with that feature to listen to podcasts at accelerated rates for years, so I'm used to it. Saves significant time.
     
  15. Dec 10, 2015 #75 of 621
    jonw747

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    Have you used it on the Roamio as yet, though?
     
  16. Dec 10, 2015 #76 of 621
    RoamioJeff

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    Yep. And it appears a little "quicker" on the Roamio than the mini. But that is probably just subjective in my part. Love it though.
     
  17. Dec 10, 2015 #77 of 621
    crxssi

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    If you are using a real home theater system, then reverting to just "stereo" sucks, instead of the dialog coming out of the center speaker, it is spread over both the distant L/R channels and that can make things harder to understand.... especially if there are effects and music at the same time.

    If you just have a cheesy soundbar or something, it probably won't make any difference. For things where there is nothing but just talking (like news and such) it also probably doesn't matter as much. But for movies and most TV shows on a nice setup, it is a drag.
     
  18. Dec 10, 2015 #78 of 621
    tim1724

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    In order to modify the audio in any way the Dolby Digital stream has to be decoded, modified, and then possibly re-encoded depending on how it's going to be output. TiVo can't "adust the playback in the codec" as the playback is happening inside your TV (or whatever you're routing your audio through). So the only way they can adjust how it's played is to decode it, change it as needed, and then re-encode it. (Besides, simply changing the playback speed would result in chipmunk voices. It takes some sophisticated math to change playback speed without changing the resulting frequencies.)

    VLC doesn't have a license to do Dolby Digital (for decoding or encoding), but it decodes and encodes it anyway. How? It's distributed by a group in France and EU law doesn't recognize software patents. So no license is needed in Europe.

    Whether or not it's legal to use VLC in the United States is a question for a patent attorney.

    TiVo pays Dolby for the right to decode Dolby Digital audio. Presumably they haven't paid for a license to encode it (which does cost more) as they don't include an encoder in their products. If they were to add one into some future software update, they would have to pay Dolby an encoding license for all TiVos that get that update, which would add up fast.
     
  19. Dec 10, 2015 #79 of 621
    mattack

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    I forget if this was mentioned before-- maybe it was..

    But I'm using Quickmode on shows streamed from my Premiere to my Roamio. So that's pretty cool that it doesn't have to be local to that Tivo or even on a "Quickmode capable" device. (I do know others mentioned using Quickmode from a Bolt to a Mini..)
     
  20. Dec 10, 2015 #80 of 621
    RoamioJeff

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    How do we know that VLC is employing an unlicensed codec? Maybe they are decoding/encoding with their own code that they wrote, versus using someone else's patented software.
     

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