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  1. mrizzo80

    mrizzo80 Well-Known Member

    Apr 16, 2012
    Well, I guess that makes the decision for me. I debated picking up the refurb + AIP deal.

    I still love TiVo (launch day lifetime'd Roamio Plus), but over the last few months I've started thinking about whether it's time to move on. Other than Netflix, the apps on Roamio are too slow. And the fact that OTT shows can be severely delayed in getting indexed into TiVo's database is annoying for me. There's been two times in the last year where Hulu indexing was broken for weeks and/or months in a row.

    I've heard the Bolt OTT apps take about 5-7 seconds to load. I resisted buying a Bolt when it came out because of the All In Pricing -vs- Lifetime change, which made an upgrade less valuable to me.

    Yesterday, I went out and bought a Fire Stick 4K for $50. The main OTT apps take about 5-7 seconds to load on that, but unlike the Roamio and Bolt which pin Netflix into memory, they get purged from memory often. So, opening Netflix is actually slower on Fire Stick 4K than my Roamio. :)

    I love the concept of One Pass, the universal provider-agnostic "My Shows" list, and automatic commercial skip. I don't think there is another solution that offers any of that; certainly not the latter two. Apple TV has something kind of similar to "My Shows" with the TV app, but I don't think Netflix is integrated. Fire Stick has "Recent", but it's not the same as what TiVo does.

    A lot of my viewing these days is via OTT. I don't record anything that is available on Hulu. I'm looking forward to the TiVo Fire TV app. I may even sign up to beta test it - I've been a TiVo customer for over 10 years and have never beta tested anything.

    I'd love for TiVo to release new post-Bolt hardware based exclusively around OTT SVOD and "cable" services. I think I'd definitely stick with TiVo if they do that.
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  2. JonUrban

    JonUrban New Member

    Dec 25, 2015
    Late to the thread but I did order a Bolt and got the shipping confirmation, so I beat the sell out. Three questions, sorry if they're common, I checked through this thread and didn't see anything about them:

    1) I still have 10 months left on my normal service. Does that get refunded or am I just SOL...(I would guess SOL)

    2) In a post above someone talks about a 3G Toshiba upgrade. Is there a place that I can read about that concerning what to get and how to install?

    3) Can I just pull the CableCard out of the old Tivo and slap it in the Bolt without calling Charter?


  3. sdsvtdriver

    sdsvtdriver Member

    Mar 5, 2008
    Thank you for the detailed answer. Much appreciated. Unfortunately, the Bolt is now sold out!
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  4. OrangeTurtle

    OrangeTurtle Member

    Jul 17, 2015
    That is what I did. Glad I got the order in as they are now gone.
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  5. randian

    randian Active Member

    Jan 15, 2014
    If this had been a 6-tuner Bolt sale I would have jumped on it.
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  6. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

    Nov 25, 2003
    tres bummiere

    Keep tracking; TiVo has added add’l stock to some past sales (though I’m not sure it’d be possible for refurbs).
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  7. waterchange

    waterchange Member

    Jun 29, 2010
    1. Is "normal service" an annual service contract on an existing TiVo box? "The service fee for the ensuing annual period will be charged (to your credit card on file with TiVo) in a single, up-front, non-refundable payment." So there are no refunds for the annual service if you cancel that contract early. Your best bet is to continue using that TiVo for the remainder of the annual service and remember to cancel before you get charged for the next monthly service when your annual contract expires.

    2. Just search for "tivo bolt hard drive upgrade" here or on google for tons of info. Here's one of a number of videos detailing the upgrade on YouTube:

    3. I don't know the answer to this.
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  8. tommage1

    tommage1 Well-Known Member

    Nov 5, 2008
    I noticed some people who were interested in this deal have Bolts with service contracts in effect. Now the deal is sold out. But I WONDER, if some who have monthly/yearly contracts called Tivo maybe they would add lifetime to their current box at the sale price (for the same item, a 500GB Bolt). Would be tough with the off shore support, they have little or no authority to do things like that. But if you can get the REAL escalated support (ie not an off shore "manager", one of the 5 or so support people left in the US) they might do it. Might be worth a try. Or maybe not, could spend hours on the phone with nothing happening ;)
  9. stile99

    stile99 Well-Known Member

    Feb 26, 2002
    I'm going to say it would be hours on the phone with nothing happening. It isn't a lifetime service sale, it's a refurb sale. To sweeten the pot, the refurbs come with lifetime service.
  10. tommage1

    tommage1 Well-Known Member

    Nov 5, 2008
    Yes and no. At least with Comcast, since the card is activated you should get MOST of the channels on the Bolt, but not some of them and none of the premium channels. To get all the channels you will need to pair the card to the new Bolt. However SHOULD be good for a "test", if everything seems to be working fine you can then pair it to the Bolt. Before you pair it you SHOULD be able to put it back in the old Tivo and it would still be paired to the old Tivo, once you pair it to the Bolt it would no longer be paired to the old Tivo. As I said this answer is for Comcast, have never had Charter.
  11. tommage1

    tommage1 Well-Known Member

    Nov 5, 2008
    Never know. Adding the lifetime to a current customers Bolt for $230 costs Tivo nothing (other than missing out on possible monthly payments in the future). If someone missed out on the deal they MIGHT do it to make the customer happy, no shipping cost for Tivo, no out of pocket expenses at all. Even if someone who has a monthly Bolt now actually GOT one of the promo boxes, Tivo MIGHT add lifetime to the current box for the $230, another $230 for them since the current monthly box will most likely be shelved. Of course then the buyer would have paid $280 for the new box, plus $230 to add lifetime to their old Bolt, but they would end up with two lifetime Bolts.
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  12. tommage1

    tommage1 Well-Known Member

    Nov 5, 2008
    Haha, if it was the 6 tuner model for $280 with lifetime it probably would have sold out in an hour. BUT they might have some 6 tuner (and 1TB 4 tuner) refurbs left. So maybe they will clear those out in the future with the $230 lifetime added, They would not be $280 I'm sure but maybe a discounted refurb price and the $230 lifetime. Who knows, I do think they are getting rid of all "regular" not packaged as Vox Bolts, the only ones left are probably refurb 1TB and refurb 6 tuner 3TB models.
  13. steinbch

    steinbch Active Member

    Nov 23, 2007
    So I had a Bolt+ (3TB/6 tuner) that was on the monthly rate. Decided to bite the bullet and nab the Bolt refurb since it included lifetime. The big question now is what do I do with my old Bolt+? I'm planning on upgrading the Bolt refurb to either a 2TB or 3TB hard drive. My options seem to be sell the Bolt+ and buy a new hard drive for ~$150-175 or be creative and swap the hard drive from the Bolt+ and see what I can get on eBay for a Bolt+ with a 500GB hard drive.
  14. dgoto

    dgoto Member

    Apr 29, 2010
    I checked Tivo web site yesterday and noticed the Tivo Bolt + 3 gig is not available, does anyone know if they have stopped production of this model or are getting ready for a newer model or version?
  15. mmihalik

    mmihalik Verbose Poster

    Oct 10, 2000
    Well, this sale is bringing me back into the fold.

    I started my adventure, way back when, by writing a jingle that won me a 14 hour Philips TiVo. Quite satisfied connected to my DirecTV receiver, upgraded drives, and eventually found my way to a few DirecTiVo SD units. This was all before HD was a thing.

    FiOS came into my neighborhood, and their cable box, internet service, and HD capability won me over. Never really trusted those early TiVo HD DVRs, so I reluctantly gave up TiVo. Still helped many friends with their TiVos over the years.

    Thru a business opportunity, found my way over to the Moxi DVR, and have been using 2 of them as well as the Moxi Mate for a long time. Yes, it has it's quirks, but I figured them all out, as well as swapping out HDDs as they failed and needed replacement.

    Friend called me over the weekend, telling me about the Bolt sale, and with lifetime included, I ordered one; it's on the way. Will activate next week.

    Everyone has a price point that will get them to try "new" technology. ;)

    PS I'm happy that Moxi has continued to work for the last 10 years or so. Plenty of spare HDD here to fix them as needed. They've been lasting about 4 years or so.

    PPS I see that my signature reminds me of all that tech I've used to watch TV.
  16. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
    Your adventure isn't over. You should just scan the titles in the Bolt forum to see what you are getting into.
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  17. lparsons21

    lparsons21 Active Member

    Feb 17, 2015
    Yep, looks like they pared the Bolt Vox line down to 2 models. 4-tuner/500Gb and 6-tuner/1Tb models.

    Interestingly I got an email telling me all about my new Bolt+ after I ordered the 500gb Bolt refurb.

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  18. mmihalik

    mmihalik Verbose Poster

    Oct 10, 2000
    You mean the grass isn't any greener on the other side?;)

    Don't worry, I've been in the tech field for a long time, specifically the storage industry.
  19. JonUrban

    JonUrban New Member

    Dec 25, 2015
    Thanks waterchange!
  20. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
    I'm not worried. I use a Roamio. :D
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