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  1. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't that answer things?
     
  2. sdsvtdriver

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    Apologies in advance as I haven't been following Tivo world for some time.

    I have a Roamio Plus and 3 Mini's in the house and all is well. Debating on the Bolt but am unsure how it would fit in the environment. Should I get another CC and replace a Mini? If so, how does viewing recordings work? Obviously today, no matter what TV one watches, the recordings are displayed in one list as all the Mini's are connected to a single Roamio. Will a Mini user be able to see recordings on both Roamio/Bolt? Is it one simplified list or will the Mini user have to navigate to find recordings on another box?

    I'm still on I guess what's called TE3 (legacy interface) and have seen no reason to update the Roamio. To use VOX remote on the Bolt, TE4 is required. How does that affect the Roamio and how much will the Mini's suck using TE4?

    I'm still browsing the forums for answers but since these may sell out, I figured it's worth asking here.

    Thanks.
     
  3. samccfl99

    samccfl99 I Am Sometimes Vocal

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    I guess you are right. For 75 extra hours of storage and to "see" TE4 in action and see how much faster it might be than a Roamio, it's really not worth the $320 with the remote and tax...Oh well...I used to have money...:(:D
     
  4. stile99

    stile99 Well-Known Member

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    Well, crap. Now I have to refund everyone who contributed to the "How long before samccfl99 reverts to TE3" pool. House still keeps 10%!

    FWIW, I had three days.
     
  5. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    See also post #16, above.
     
  6. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Yes, inquiring minds do want to know.

    Related info:
    • The TE4/Hydra software version lacks the Transfer option within the UI, but transfers to a TE4 box are supposed to be possible via TiVo Online.
    • If your transfers are prevented by copy protection, a new box won’t change it.
     
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  7. OrangeCrush

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    It isn't for me, but only because I've already got 4k, moca & streaming covered. So really all I'd get is faster internals, new warranty and a smaller hard drive which I'd likely feel the need to upgrade and spend more for. It would make more sense if I didn't already have those additional pieces.
     
  8. davezatz

    davezatz Funkadelic

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    There's no underlying mystery here. These are both refurbs. TiVo's trying to recoup some money with aggressive pricing that happens to also benefit those that partake. Win-win.
     
  9. jcondon

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    Does the VOX remote work with the older Premieres? I am thinking of grabbing a Bolt and a spare remote if it would work. The remotes on my Premiere are pretty beat up. I don't care about the voice part of it (which obviously will not work). Figured $20 isn't too bad for a new remote.

    ETA: Seems not. Makes sense to me.

    TiVo VOX Remote Control
     
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  10. stile99

    stile99 Well-Known Member

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    Ah yes, thank you for the reminder.

    Of course, this makes waiting for 'something better' even sillier. The rep was correct, when they're gone, they're gone.
     
  11. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    A VOX remote has IR mode. I'm not sure if the added buttons will cause problems. And as you said, no voice.
     
  12. jcondon

    jcondon Well-Known Member

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    Thanks. Just placed an order for the Bolt. didn't bother with the extra remote as I am not sure it would work. I can always get a proper remote for the Premier later. They work but the buttons are all worn off.
     
  13. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    My first TiVo was a Premiere. Then I started buying Roamio units. I had to buy a Roamio remote for the Premiere to avoid hitting the wrong buttons. :)
     
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  14. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    You shall burn in hell.

    First, know that you can try the BOLT out for 30 days with no risk (aside from possible return shipping expense, and whatever your provider would charge for the CableCARD).

    As for accessing content in a multi-DVR setup, the Minis will function the same as the DVRs ... in that there is NOT a unified content listing. How you’d access a networked DVR’s content is dependent on your choice of OS on the local box (where a Mini’s OS is determined by its host DVR):
    • TE3/Encore/“legacy”: networked DVRs will appear as icons at the bottom of the My Shows listing or within the ‘Devices’ My Shows category;
    • TE4/Hydra: networked DVRs are only listed as icons within the ‘DEVICES’ My Shows menu.
    Once you’ve selected the remote DVR icon, the listing will just look like a typical My Shows listing for the OS version running on the local box. And the main difference b/w accessing the networked DVR from a Mini rather than a DVR is the absence of a “Transfer” option when viewing a recording’s details — though this option will also be missing if the local DVR is running TE4/Hydra. (Transfers to a TE4 DVR must be initiated via TiVo Online.)

    The Minis can be quickly reconfigured to point to either DVR as their host DVR (i.e. the box from which they’d receive a tuner for live TV viewing, and whose My Shows listing would be mirrored on the Mini) — though the switch would be dramatically slowed-down if the DVRs are running different UI versions. The Mini will prompt to upgrade/downgrade its software to match the version running on the selected host DVR.


    Yes, TE4 is required for VOX voice functionality (and you’d also need to add a VOX Remote for $20 when you buy the BOLT, since the offered BOLT is VOX-less).

    As for TE4, you could give it a spin for 30 days to experience it for yourself, supplemented by reviewing any number of TE4/Hydra threads here on TCF.
     
  15. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Not in BLE mode, but IR ... and the VOX voice functionality wouldn’t be available 1) because VOX only works in BLE mode (similar to the Slide Pro keyboard only working when in RF mode), and 2) VOX voice functionality is only available under TE4/Hydra, for which Premieres are not eligible.

    That said, you could add the VOX Remote to your purchase (for just $20), and use the VOX Remote with the BOLT, and gift the standard (though white) RF Remote that comes with the BOLT to your Premiere. If you want RF (directionless) control of the Premiere, ask TiVo for a RF USB Dongle (not the Bluetooth/BLE dongle) that ships with the “for Mini v1 & Premieres” version of the Slide Pro.

    Then, if you want VOX functionality on the BOLT, you just need it to be running TE4/Hydra — which it will be, unless you downgrade after initial setup.

    (You can likely get the remote added to your purchase by calling, and maybe even get the RF USB Dongle thrown-in for free.)
     
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  16. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Yeah, nice to have a uniform UI *and* remote experience across boxes. That was one thing that annoyed me when I rolled-out a Roamio DVR and v1 Minis for my mom early on: the v1 Minis were shipping with the Premiere-style remote. So, a Slide Pro purchase (and complainy post) later and Mom had uniformity. (She never uses the keyboard, probably has forgotten it’s even there, so the remotes are identical to her, aside from the heft of the Slide Pro.)
     
  17. jcondon

    jcondon Well-Known Member

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    I called and they wanted $10 shipping so decided not to bother. They said it would be in a different box/order with a different carrier (one is coming Fedex and the other would be UPS). The CS rep did try to get it waived but wasn't able. Not a big deal. Thanks for the info.
     
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  18. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Alternative: Cancel the first order, and re-do with an included VOX Remote?
     
  19. jcondon

    jcondon Well-Known Member

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    A good idea. But I am going to leave my original order alone. I snoozed on the last deal (over the summer I think maybe spring) and they were sold out of what I ended up wanting. So decided not to let it get away this time.

    If we end up wanting one I will just pay the extra and order it from Amazon. Wife might not like the remote as much as the peanut anyway who knows.
     
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  20. cwoody222

    cwoody222 Well-Known Member

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    The Bolt is sold out!
     
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