Simple features TiVo should have, but doesn't

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Dan203, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. Oct 6, 2011 #121 of 122
    unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

    16,576
    41
    Apr 28, 2006
    semi-coastal NC
    The problem isn't that the TiVo records in chunks, the problem is that it records in "shows". If you've got 29 minutes of show A in the buffer and the first minute of show B in the buffer and hit record, even if you rewind to the beginning of the buffer, the TiVo compares the channel setting to the time and program guide and, as far as it is concerned, show A is over and the record command applies to show B.

    It doesn't know how to record in the past, even though via the buffer it does exactly that.
     
  2. Oct 6, 2011 #122 of 122
    MichaelK

    MichaelK Active Member

    7,308
    1
    Jan 10, 2002
    NJ
    the file system doesn't record an entire half hour show in one piece. It's made up of chunks (or some similar term).

    In fact the buffer is more than 30 minutes most of the time- even though tivo never allows us to see more than 30. Say each chunk is 5 minutes (made up numbers- the more technical peopel can explain better what more realistic sizes are). Say the box finished a recording at 7:00 and it starts a new buffer and starts a new chunk. another new chunk at 7:05, 7:10, 7:15, 7:30. at 7:32 the buffer will pretend it only goes back to 7:02- the reality is it still has that chunk going back to 7:00. If the show in the buffer was 7:00 to 8:00 if you hit the record at 7:32 it actually would start the program at 7:00 and you hit the jackpot and get your whole show (even though if you try to rewinf the buffer it would not let you go earlier than 7:02).

    You're complaint is the UI is stupid and if you hit record at 7:32 (regardless of where in the buffer you are) and the guide has shows from 7:00 to 7:30 and 7:30 to 8:00 it assume you want the 7:30 show. Lots of people complain about that- it's enough to make you want to throw the box away when it happens. A work around for this is apparently to quickly go set up a manually recording on that channel from 7:00 to 7:30 and the tivo will figure out what chunks in the buffer you need in order to make up that show (I *think* it also actually labels it correctly that way in NPL but I'm not certain) http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=429331

    So would your simple feature be when you hit record in the buffer it asks which show you want? I'd vote for that one too.

    The point I was trying to make originally is that what the UI does and what the file system do are already 2 different things and tivo already knows how to handle that. So Doesn't matter what the file system is doing - somehow it marks the beginning of shows and uses that for when you pick to play a show from the now playing list. So tivo could do all sorts of soft padding or duplicating some overlap from 2 different shows on the same channel, and for the most part the UI would already be able to handle it.
     

Share This Page