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  1. May 5, 2017 #81 of 2861
    Steveknj

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    First of all, in the current premise, there are no women BASEBALL players who could compete, so is it any more far fetched to have a woman who could? Second of all this is fiction. As I said, you don't think there are women who play with men on the schoolyards? Women who could hit an outside jumpshot? I thought there was a woman or two who have attended NBA training camp? Nancy Lieberman perhaps? The premise here is a woman who's an EXTRAORDINARY athlete, not the average player.
     
  2. May 5, 2017 #82 of 2861
    Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

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    Which is no doubt, all true. The best woman's pitcher couldn't compete on a professional level with men. But in this FICTIONALIZED TV show, they find one woman who could. If you think the whole premise is a reach, then the show is probably not for you. So, to take that "reach" to a different sport, one where we've seen successful professional women compete, such as basketball, it's the same thing. Nobody is saying it's possible in real life, but in a fictionalized TV show, why not?
     
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  3. May 5, 2017 #83 of 2861
    Steveknj

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    Hello, welcome to the forum :)
     
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  4. May 5, 2017 #84 of 2861
    ADG

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    LOL
     
  5. May 5, 2017 #85 of 2861
    DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    I never saw the show, but I assume it dealt with a lot of the stuff that players go through outside of just playing, stuff like locker room politics, the constant fear of getting sent to the minors, the authority of the manager vs. the GM, travel, dealing with the press and fans, etc.
     
  6. May 5, 2017 #86 of 2861
    Ruth

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    There definitely was a tension in Pitch between writing for the baseball audience vs. the Grrrl power/rom drama audience. I'm in the latter group and I enjoyed the show despite knowing NOTHING about baseball, but there definitely were several times during the season that I found myself googling to figure out things about baseball that the show was assuming I already understood. I enjoy internet research so that was not a big deal for me, but I can imagine some people being turned off by it.

    Here are some examples -- I didn't know what a "beanball" is and there's a whole episode about that. I didn't understand the relationship between major and minor leagues or anything about how trades work. I didn't know that pitchers would only be allowed to pitch a certain number of games in a season
     
  7. May 5, 2017 #87 of 2861
    TonyD79

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    While it definitely had a "girl power" theme and vibe, I don't think Pitch was aimed at people who knew nothing about baseball. I think they were aiming more at the girls and women who like sports and were viewing it as a growing demographic.

    They may have overestimated the hunger for such a show from the demographic but they also missed on the texture of the show. Neither sports enough nor girl enough.

    But, overall, a series about a sports team is difficult. It is hard to sustain the drama and keep the games alive. A movie, yes. A series about people AWAY from the field (including agents like Arli$$), yes. But one centered on a team (and not an outright comedy) is difficult. It would take great writing and these writers were not great. They were good enough for a medical drama but a sports environment is extremely challenging.
     
  8. May 6, 2017 #88 of 2861
    gweempose

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    Bummed that SyFy didn't renew Incorporated. I thought it was a pretty cool show.
     
  9. May 6, 2017 #89 of 2861
    Regina

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    The Knick is cancelled????
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:(:(:(:(
     
  10. May 6, 2017 #90 of 2861
    laria

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    As a woman who has played softball up through HS varsity level and basketball up through D1 college level, I find it more plausible personally to find a woman who can compete in baseball than basketball. :)
     
  11. May 7, 2017 #91 of 2861
    Graymalkin

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    I liked Pitch, so I'm disappointed that it wasn't renewed -- but not terribly surprised. Baseball doesn't appeal to the younger demographic like basketball or football does. And has there ever been a long-running drama series on broadcast TV centered around sports? (Cable TV, of course, is different -- naked sex scenes with Ali Larter and Mark Paul Gosselaar certainly would've attracted more eyeballs.)

    The show did acknowledge that it would take some unusual circumstances for a woman to make it in Major League Baseball. They made her a pitcher so she didn't have to make it as a hitter or fielder. Her best pitch was a screwball, which doesn't need the raw power that a 100-mph fastball or wicked curveball does.
     
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    TriBruin

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    TAsunder

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    Until I saw that it was not renewed, I had already assumed it was over. Never even occurred to me that they were trying to continue it.
     
  14. May 8, 2017 #94 of 2861
    laria

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    I had read some articles (that spoiled me on the ending of S2... I'm still back in S1 somewhere)...

    that it was always planned to be a show told in 2 year chunks, where they wiped the slate clean and started over.
     
  15. May 8, 2017 #95 of 2861
    tivoknucklehead

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    13 reasons why renewed for season 2
     
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    TAsunder

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    Ahhhh... well that would make sense, but like most shows that start out with that kind of plan, was doomed to fail.
     
  17. May 8, 2017 #97 of 2861
    gweempose

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    Friday Night Lights
     
  18. May 8, 2017 #98 of 2861
    laria

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    Wasn't that only on NBC for 2 seasons before moving to DirecTV?

    To answer the original question... Coach was on for quite a few seasons way back in the olden days. :) Ummm.... One Tree Hill, if a soap opera counts (I stopped watching after a while but there was a decent amount of basketball in the first season or two). That's all I got. :)

    Edit: Sports Night comes to mind, too, but that was neither long running (2 seasons), nor really based around sports... more a tv show based around a tv show about sports.
     
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    lpwcomp

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    Depends on what constitutes "long running" The White Shadow ran for 3 seasons.
     
  20. May 8, 2017 #100 of 2861
    gweempose

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    Okay, so I guess "long running" is open to debate. The show ran for five seasons, but I believe the last three seasons aired on DirecTV first and were later rebroadcast on NBC. It was definitely a drama that centered around sports, though. :)
     

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