Let me start over here. My other thread was too big and hard to understand. I really only have ONE question. I want to know if I'm wasting my time getting an HD sat DISH box if I'm gonna have a non-HD series 2 TIVO? So the HD signal comes in, goes into the sat box, then output to TIVO, then from TIVO to the TV? So I'm wondering if all I'm doing is downsampling back down to SDTV since the the tv in the end is getting a signal back from the tivo. If so maybe there's a way around it. Personally... I don't care.. also it's not an option for me... if I record in HD. I'd just like to be able to watch it at least or why bother getting an HD sat box? The reason I can't get an HD TIVO is b/c it's not compatible with satellite, and I don't want to get a DTV/TIVO box.