Should I buy a 4K Stream or a Roku?

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream 4K' started by UCLABB, Apr 5, 2021.

  1. dbpaddler

    dbpaddler Well-Known Member

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    Yes, because tivo is known to be that proactive when things get broken. Please.

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  2. dbpaddler

    dbpaddler Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't call it the best on the market. And I think you might mistake people saying it's the best for them. I have fire, Roku, ccgtv and TS4k's. Never even opened the 4k fire (have the old 1080 one I used briefly.). The Roku has never been opened either.

    For me... I like the separate power and usb-c on the TS4k. I don't need hubs to add things. I have a flash drive on one and others have a simple Ethernet Adapter. No pass through powered hubs needed. The one with the USB drive actually has the chromecast ultra's Ethernet charger if I choose to run a cable over to it.

    The peanut remote for my dvr needs is the best out there of the stock remotes. Though I do use a harmony/hub in my living room setups and have both TS4k's in there working off a single hub. One is for a projector and the other a TV. The TV can actually use the peanut remote for everything though. My bedroom setup is that way. Nice only having the one little remote to do it all, and that's with an amp and 3.1 setup on both tv's.

    I use the ccgtv in my theater room through a harmony/hub. I lose the dvr button functionality. I deal with the aggregated rows of crap of Google tv's home screen. And navigating around, for me is about the same. I don't see any appreciable difference in speed and use between the two devices.

    I do need a hub on the ccgtv because of the single usb-c. So I have to have a powered pass through hub with Ethernet to get a wired setup.

    I don't really think anyone has it up on a pedastel. And the only device that would be appreciably better than sub $50 streamers mentioned above would be the Shield. But if you don't game, don't do plex type things, you're paying 3x the cost for a little more speed you probably don't fully appreciate unless you're AB'ing. You don't need dongles to add things since it has a slew of ports. And that's about it.

    There really isn't much in between, but some no name devices have come out that bridge the gap, but you're turning to China and Europe for them. Tmo's has a newer chipset but their UI is annoying from what I've read. Of course you could sideload a home app and disable theirs. Think Verizon or someone else came out with one too, but I'm still getting my morning coffee on and don't really care to dive deeper to remember at the moment.

    None are really perfect. All are pretty much advertising money making devices for the respective companies at our expense now, so you find the one that best suits your needs and go with it.


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  3. driverseven

    driverseven Tivo Bolt

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    I bought a Tivo Stream because I wanted HBO Max and couldn't get it with my Tivo Bolt. It's worked out well; I like the way the Tivo Stream works and prefer using it over the Tivo Bolt for watching Netflix and Prime Video. (My wife prefers using the Tivo Bolt over the TS4K but we have both so it's not an issue). I also added the Discovery+ app and that works fine.

    There were a couple of times when it froze but it was fixed by un-plugging and re-starting. And I should add that I don't use YouTube with the Tivo Stream so I haven't experienced the problems others are reporting.
     
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  4. dbpaddler

    dbpaddler Well-Known Member

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    On another note as I just replied to a Reddit thread where someone suggested spending $50+ on a usb-c hub for a $50+ streaming device. You are now getting closer to Shield territory in price. So if you have plans of adding dongles and such, you might as well look into the Shield as all the ports are built in. It has much better innards and is pretty solid on support. I bash Shield owners who blanket suggest it regardless of a person's use case, but when price difference becomes less of a factor, I know I'd find it easy to spend a little more for the better device with known excellent support.

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  5. Vm19

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    Please do not get the stream 4k, massive disappointment, so many bugs
     
  6. schatham

    schatham Well-Known Member

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    I have and like the stream 4k. Having said that I also own Roku's and the Roku is much more stable than the Tivo 4k. It could be Tivo's fault or just that Android itself is an unstable platform.

    Tivo is nice because of the remote. I like having power and volume on the remote. This is Roku's weak spot.
     
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  7. wendlan

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    I've also purchased at least six Roku's over the years and have been happy with all of them. I strongly recommend Roku Ultra because it has an ethernet port built-in, and has the fastest processor and most RAM. It's also quite stable and has a simple interface (too simple for some I guess) - rows of apps, pick the one you want, and go. It's often $79 on sale.

    It also includes a headphone jack on the remote, which is also RF so it doesn't require line of site. As a bonus, the Ultimate also accepts IR - so old school IR universal remotes work as well.
     
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  8. crackers8199

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    i haven't seen any of these reports of this happening on any device other than the ts4k, so genuinely curious where these threads are.

    as for the problem with the youtube app being corrected by reloading the stream, that has absolutely not been my experience. i have to either factory reset the device or uninstall/reinstall updates on youtube to get any video working again. every single time.
     
  9. osu1991

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    Go to the YoutubeTV Reddit. There are posts of it happening on the Samsung TVs and I saw one yesterday about the freezing video happening on a fire tv.

    Code:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubetv/comments/mps7tq/video_keeps_freezing_but_audio_is_fine/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
     
  10. Foogie

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    Sometimes I have to reload stream several times to fix streaking bars on (regular youtube) live streams sometimes it does not glitch but recently ads have been annoying me more than this glitch and am trying alternative youtube clients to block these all too common unpredictable ads.
     

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