Shameless "I'll Light a Candle For You Everyday" OAD 1/22/2012

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  1. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    Wow. Frank really crossed a line with butter face. I know these characters are supposed to be awful people but that was just wrong. At least the other characters have small moments of redemption. I don't see how I can ever like Frank now.

    It was great to see Steve at the end. Hopefully, he will be back soon.
     
  2. markymark_ctown

    markymark_ctown Well-Known Member

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    it's just frank being frank...he is pathetic.
     
  3. mwhip

    mwhip All better

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    Yep even sitting there with a wad of cash and his daughter next to him he barely acknowledges her. Can't wait until Fiona finds out about the cash.

    I wonder if the purse lady will be back, seems odd to have that interaction if she will not run into her again.
     
  4. tiams

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    Maybe she will end up being Craig's wife.
     
  5. tlc

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    Yeah. I can't remember the Brit version of Frank ever
    causing a death.
    That one doesn't seem as bad.
     
  6. Kamakzie

    Kamakzie Are you serious bro?

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    Yeah I think Frank hit an all time low. Which is really low!
     
  7. Agatha Mystery

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    My husband can't watch this show with me, even with the sex, because of how horrible a person Frank is.

    Other revelations from the show:

    Each kid has to come up with $1K for the pot? Geez.

    Steve was in front of a horrible painting of the ocean. It was incredibly fake and bothered me.

    The sandwich during sex thing? Ewwwwwwwww. Poor Fiona - she had a crappy day.

    Lip asking if he'd be able to plow the back fields, only to realize that he was. Rather funny in the moment, but I felt really sorry for the girl. She wasn't enjoying any of that, was just doing it for companionship. I feel bad for Lip being in love with her, and her not loving him back.
     
  8. DanB

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    Isnt it "buttaface?"
     
  9. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    I know they are going for the shock factor but I don't think Frank can go any lower and if he does then how do you watch a character like that. I am already at the point where I want to FF through his scenes.
     
  10. Agatha Mystery

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    I think he did develop some sort of affection for "butterface" by the end. Otherwise, I don't think he would have gone into church and said a prayer for her. His need for alcohol and lack of scruples just ends up overriding any redeeming features that he may have had. He lost Liam, but was willing to have sex with all sorts of men (not his thing, obviously) to try and get him back.

    I have to say, though, I don't FF through Frank. I FF through parts of "Happy Endings" all the time. What does that say about me? I find Frank to be a believeable person, whereas some of the characters on Happy Endings annoy the crap out of me, and I just can't stand it. Although, I did watch an entire episode the other day, amazingly enough.
     
  11. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    I think some people need to be reminded of the show's title - Shameless.
     
  12. Tracy

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    I think it is Butterface, as in "But, her face!"
     
  13. Tracy

    Tracy Truly

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    Yes! In an earlier episode, the delinquent younger brother was sitting on the front steps lighting something on fire and that was also obviously fake.
     
  14. Agatha Mystery

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    I just assumed there was child actor regulations that prevented him from playing with something dangerous. There's nothing dangerous about getting a blow job on a hotel balcony overlooking the ocean.
     
  15. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    It was a quick scene and it's got to be cheaper than shooting in an actual location. Half the pilot of Ringer was shot this way and it drove me nuts. You would think for a pilot they would have a little more $$$$.

    My guess is that Steve will be back in town in the near future. There is still lots we don't know about him. I was kinda hoping things might go a bit further with the guy from high school but I don't think we will be seeing him again. Fiona has to have a guy so they can get her naked at least once every episode.:D
     
  16. Rob Helmerichs

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    Exactly. "_____ really crossed a line with _____" is kinda the basis of the show!
     
  17. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    But I think the rest of the characters do it for survival. Frank just does it because he is a crazy drunken lunatic.

    Fiona wasn't sure if she wanted to take the purse. When she finally did, she ultimately decided to return the money and sacrificed to do it. In the end, I am glad she kept it but she really did want to do the right thing.

    The rest of the characters also have those occasional redeeming moments. Frank is just a scumbag.
     
  18. GDG76

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    I love Frank's character. I honestly think that TV viewers are so conditioned for a comeback or redemption story and this is the creative forces behind this show just kicking that vision in the $@!!$ over and over again.

    Sometimes people are just pieces of crap. They have moments of humanity, but overall they are crap. Frank is also a great mouthpiece for all the people who get their political opinions from a TV show, every blowhard you've ever met in a bar etc. I just like to have no expectations and enjoy the train wreck.
     
  19. brebeans

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    I agree that sometimes people are just pieces of crap. And, we all watch killers, rapists, etc. and not many of us think much of it (as TV, movies, etc.).

    The problem with Frank is that he is "too close to home" for some people, I think. People have certain pictures in mind of violent criminals. Frank doesn't fit that and, frankly ;-), we all probably know a lot more people like Frank than we do the more violent types. So, it's a bit more unsettling.

    All that being said.....I think the show DOES want to portray Frank as a "loser" and 'train wreck', but with some, just a little bit, of redeeming qualities that show themselves, sometimes, if only once in awhile. As viewers we want to 'know' they're there.

    I know the title is Shameless...perfect ...But it is a comedy in more ways than not. Having Frank be the real 'dirtbag' that he was this past week ( regarding the transplant, in my view) detracts from the comedy and, at least, my ability to "go with it". Not that others wouldn't continue to enjoy it.

    I will continue to watch and I love all the characters. I do hope, however, that they don't have Frank do anything as despicable as this week.....which was so deliberate and really cost a life.....
     
  20. Agatha Mystery

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    See, I don't really see it as a comedy. Maybe that's the difference. I see it as a drama, with funny parts. There are so many depressing parts to the show that I just can't see it as a comedy. Fiona quitting high school. Lip still in high school, but no real motivation (who could get ahead so easily), Kaz having to live a horrible life hiding his homosexuality to the point of running away, etc. At the core, there is friendship and love, and that is why we want to watch.
     

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