Sezmi UI >>>>>>> Tivo UI

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by tombonneau, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. brettatk

    brettatk Thread Killer

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    Ok, I would agree if you are paying a monthly fee on your Tivo then it would be worth taking a look. I'm on lifetime and my Tivo HD is upgraded to 1TB so I can't see it being an option for me. I can see your point though, there could be several situations where it might be an alternative for someone. Heck, for the price it might be worth for someone to get it to go along with their Tivo instead of replacing it.
     
  2. tombonneau

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    Oh yeah I def would not recommend it for your situation if you've already got the 1TB and have no monthly cost.

    I'm not sure how much the multi-unit Tivo costs are, as I'm only interested in the one, but you're right, it could be a cheaper solution if you are running OTA and want DVR functionality in the bedroom or den or whatever. In fact, now that you bring it up, I might end up going that route if I finally get a bedroom TV ...
     
  3. brettatk

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    Yeah, we have an S2 connected to a HDTV in the kids playroom which can't be used with OTA. It's also lifetime so I've hesitated replacing it but I might give this Sezmi DVR some more thought.
     
  4. mattack

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    Well, as for wish lists, I have a lot of bands/individual musicians in wish lists, and they catch random talk show appearances (usually daytime shows) as well as nighttime shows that I record on purpose.

    I have NO IDEA what you mean by the latter. For a season pass, just say 'keep all', and it keeps them all. That's one of the first things I do when I set up a new SP or auto recording wish list... set it to all episode (and usually add one minute of padding on each end).
     
  5. tombonneau

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    Sorry. I meant you can keep an unlimited number of shows for your season passed show; I thought TiVo capped it at 25 or something but they let you keep all episodes too.

    In looking closer at the season pass settings, it's actually a little better as let's you choose if you want to record for this time or any time and also this channel or any channel. So like for seinfeld I set to any time or channel so it picks up all the episodes whenever they play.

    Pretty slick. Would be much more useful though on a TiVo with all those cable channels. ;)

    Obviously no wish lists would stink for you, but it will auto record most late night talk shows for you so youre really not going to miss someone if they are on an ota late night show. Heck just season pass them all, you won't run out of room.
     
  6. Series3Sub

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    I forgot about Sezmi's On-line options. However, Sezmi is no Roku or Boxee. So, they are at a disadvantage again. I really do love the idea of Sezmi and think it is a great option, but I think the truth is there just isn't a big enough market to get it to the critical mass it needs, especially making DVR's is expensive compared to streaming boxes.
     
  7. Series3Sub

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    Thank you for affirming my point. You are an exception, rare and have a small number of others as very tech savvy as you. The problem is the vast majority of people have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and haven't the foggiest how to set it all up, let alone spend the outlay and do the research. Even the HTPC is still a strange concept to the masses, and they would consider it overkill (you and I may know different, but this is how Joe Blow and Suzy from Kalamazoo see it), and and "Whay! A PC on all the time and possibley in my living room and you have to run Ethernet cable or I gotta shell out for wireless (so slow). HUH! Forget it; too complicated. All I want is my HBO on my TV." And your limited selection is nowhere near what the masses need (they don't watch Public TV, PLEASE!) because of their limited tastes. They would be crying, "There is nothing to watch," which is why over 80% of households pay for TV. And I have heard these folks complain of "nothing to watch" even whey they have over 200 channels. Sorry, but too many people gotta have HBO for the series or IFC or History because it does match their tastes and there is NOTHING like them on OTA, although Antenna TV and This TV probably would appeal to them.

    The masses just want a box in their home that gives them good "old fashioned" TV as they have known it for decades and maybe with a DVR. You see, they would see you (us) as the "fool" with statements like "Oh, that's too much (overkill); I don't value TV as much as he; I don't need all that. I all want is a box on my main TV and one in the kids room; How much did he lay out for that? That's too complicated. I just want them to come in and install my cable or sat TV; I don't wanna pay extra for ESPN on-line because that's why I have cable." And the real kicker for you, "I don't care if I have to wait until my cable or sat service or channels I subscribe to are ready to show me content whenever; TV is not that really important to me; it makes no difference to me now or months from now.

    These are all comments or similar to ones I have heard from just about everyone I know say when I bring up the bold new world of HTPC's, On-line viewing (it still seems incomplete to them), home networks to access video when and where they want, just like your system. They really do think we are pathetic twats. As technology really changes, they may see the benefit of such elaborate set-ups, or the quality and choice will improve even more. The success of Netflix is helping people see the possibilities of on-line streaming for video.

    For now, even with the growing "cable cutters" we still see growth in subscribers with the Telcos and especially DirecTV this quarter alone (never mind the earlier quarters that were also more gain) that demonstrates the masses still prefer to "chained" to traditional MVPD's even with DirecTV's disadvantage for On-line streaming (the supposed killer of MVPD's). Yes, your set-up and on-line in general may be king someday, but NOT today.

    To the masses. Let us hope they see the light sooner than later.
     
  8. Series3Sub

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    I for one, really would recommend Sezmi for an OTA only option, even with its future not certain because the purchase price for its system is pretty low and the monthly fee is very low. Even if Sezmi goes out of business, not too much money will have been lost. It certainly beats the $99 TiVo with $20 per month fee right now.

    It is also too expensive for me to even consider additional TiVo boxes--even with the MSD--because the cost is just to high, or offensive. However, Sezmi's low $4 per month means I really could afford multiple boxes in the house. I know it would be OTA only and very few on-line services, but I love the Sezmi pricing.

    Now, if someone felt they may return to cable at some point if they can't take OTA only, then TiVo is the one to get.

    Are the Sezmi's stll buggy? I would hope they fixes that with some software updates. If Sezmi were available a few years ago, I would have gotten that instead of TiVo because Sezmi costs less. However, I do enjoy my TiVo Series 3.
     
  9. Series3Sub

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    Could you use the multiple house-member for genre. I mean you could get use out of that feature by using each house-member setting as your own genre setting: one for movies, one for comedies or any other way you wish. Just a thought. It could be one way to use the feature.
     
  10. Series3Sub

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    I think Sezmi is subsiding the cost of their systems to a high degree so that they can be competitive and get it into people's homes and get some word of mouth. I'm sure it costs them big money to be in Best Buy as well. I don't think the current MSRP for their systems reflect the true cost of the system.
     
  11. Series3Sub

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    I agree, the lack of a Wish List or DishPass would be a bit difficult for me as well as I do use them and even depend upon them. However, with Sezmi's low cost and fees, I think I could live with it.
     
  12. tombonneau

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    Sezmis online is meager. Basically YouTube and some podcasts. But YouTube is well integrated. Better than TiVo. Much faster to search. And of course Roku doesn't have it (unless you go private channel). Regardless I just use my iPad for living room YouTube access anyway.

    I have a Roku for the rest of my online tv access. I'm actually doing a dry run these next few weeks and limiting my tv viewing to Sezmi, Roku and iPad. Pretty sure I'm going be able to cut the cord. Haven't missed much so far. (Though I admit to cheating to watch an episode of Archer ;) )

    You sound like you're on the fence about the Sezmi. I advise going to BB and picking one up to test one out. Worst case scenario you're out an hour or two of setup and reboxing.

    I will say that most of the buggy criticisms you'll read about sezmi are older. They seem to have fixed them. I got some stutter when 20 second skipping through a basketball game yesterday (go Cuse!) but i can handle that as it won't be typical for me. Otherwise playback has been fine. Not perfect like TiVo, but very bearable, and slightly endearing in its little box that could imperfect way.

    One issue I noted is that I seem to have issues if I shut the tv off with the sezmi on a menu screen. When I turn it back on there seems to be an hdmi handshake issue and the screen is dark and I have to manually go up to the box to reset it. However if I leave the sezmi on live tv I have no issue when I turn the tv back on.

    On a positive note, I tweeted to them about the issue and they seem to have matched back my twitter handle to my account email as I received an email alert that a support ticket has been created. Pretty impressive customer support.
     
  13. mattack

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    20 second skipping? That means even more button presses during a commercial break. Yes, on a Tivo I have to skip skip skip a bunch of times then 8 second back, since it's not a perfect multiple of 30 second skips (plus there's the second or so between ads).. but still.. that's a strange amount to choose. (My XS32 has configurable times for skip forward/back too, which I think is weird too..)

    OK, so it sort of sounds like their equivalent of season passes is *really* either season passes or manual recordings (since you can say any time slot), with just a tiny bit of wish lists (any channel).. but not the entire sophistication of wish lists.
     
  14. tombonneau

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    Pretty sure its 20 seconds. Works out great for me as I use FF for TV commercials and only use 30sec on TiVo for sports, and 20s is ideal for zippng through basketball.
     
  15. tiams

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    I want to cut the able and go solely OTA. I have been a long time TIVO user but Sezmi seems to be exactly what I am looking for. I can't see paying TIVO $20 a month for service when I am only watching 5 Networks.

    Question: Does Sezmi have dual tuners?

    Sadly I cannot find one for sale right now at Amazon or Best Buy.
     
  16. mattack

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    You don't have to pay Tivo $20/month for service.. you can pay lifetime.
     
  17. davezatz

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    Sezmi shot themselves in the foot with their original plan to license broadcast spectrum and launch only in those select markets (LA was first). They blew a lot of cash on that failed approached and have since adjusted. But I wouldn't be surprised if they don't survive beyond 2011. A bummer really, because the market needs more competition less. But if TiVo can't make it in retail, no one can.
     
  18. Series3Sub

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    Yes, Sezmi has dual tuners. When we have to cut back in the not too distant future, I can see getting a Sezmi for sure.
     
  19. P42

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    We tried Sezmi for a month earlier this year when looking for an OTA DVR, poor UI layout - sure it's HD, but the flow was non-intuitive, frequently it didn't respond to the remote, and slow changing channel.

    We were thankful for Amazon's easy return policy. Cancelling our Sezmi account took a little work; no response from to support ticket, no response to email, but they do monitor twitter.

    Yes it is significantly cheaper then Tivo at $150+$5/month V's the $470+tax we then paid for Tivo. But the Tivo is less hassle.
     
  20. tiams

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    I finally got my Sezmi from Amazon. At $4.99 a month, I think I am going to be very satisfied. I am already planning where to spend the $85 I will be saving each month. I may get a second Sezmi for the bedroom!
     

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