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Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by Drpepr, Aug 10, 2018.

  1. Drpepr

    Drpepr New Member

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    Hi
    New to TiVo. Acquired a Roamio Plus and a few A92 minis with the hope of reducing the monthly rental/DVR fees.
    Have Verizon FIOS with the Gateway G1100 and the Verizon Network Extender.

    The G1100 is in a room with no TV. The Extender is next to the kitchen TV.
    Three other TVs include the family room (by far the most use), media room, and bedroom (closest room to G1100)

    So where do I put the roamio plus and the minis? Do the minis have less function compared to the roamio?

    Do I use the ethernet connections for any of the boxes? I think all should be good using MoCa.

    Where should I connect the slingbox? I think I maybe limited to where ever the roamio is due to the composite connections since all the minis will be with a TV.

    Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
     
  2. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Would be helpful to quantify just how many Minis you have.

    Yes. The DVRs can cycle through all available (i.e. not allocated to any Mini) tuners via the Live TV button, retaining a 30-minute buffer for each tuner; a Mini is allocated a single tuner and jumping between channels resets the buffer with each channel change.

    Plus many management functions are only available via the host DVR. (channel list and favorites editing, signal strength evaluation)

    So the Roamio Plus DVR would likely be the best choice for the Family Room.

    MoCA should be fine. (i.e. work great)

    Either to the least-used Mini* or to a dedicated Mini not connected to any TV display -- to minimize conflict between the Slingbox viewer and anyone at home trying to use the Slingbox-connected device. (* "Least-used" may also be assessed based on which device will be least likely to be used if/when the Slingbox is needed.)

    You can use the TiVo A/V Breakout Cable Kit (or equivalent) to connect the Slingbox via component video to a Mini -- while the Mini is connected via HDMI to a TV. (Note that the new Mini VOX is only capable of HDMI video output.)


    Additional info:
    • See here for differences between the A92 v1 Mini remote and v2 Mini (which uses the same remote as the Roamio Plus).

    • See cheap RF remote option >here< -- though noting RF capability would only be available for boxes where the required TiVo USB RF dongle was installed. Worst case, these RCN RF remotes can be used in IR mode with a v1 Mini, to at least provide the same button layout and functions as available via the Roamio Plus' RF remote; they can be upgraded to RF communication via the appropriate dongle. (TiVo can sometimes be cajoled into offering dongles free or at a discount; just don't confuse the RF dongle with the new BT/Bluetooth dongle required for VOX Remotes.)
    • With the Roamio Plus networked as a MoCA client, see this post for info on extending wired networking to Ethernet-capable devices co-located with the Roamio Plus.
     
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  3. Drpepr

    Drpepr New Member

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    Thank you for the detailed reply. Very helpful!

    I have 3 minis. Two of the remotes are the Slide Pro and 2 are the Roamio style and I have the dongles. The breakout cable should solve the slingbox issue.

    Was reading a thread about the TiVo setup with fire cube so that will challenge me when I get to that.

    Also concerned about the TiVo operating system options (hydra) but seems like personal preference. Since I am not familiar with the older software the newer one should probably be fine.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2018
  4. Drpepr

    Drpepr New Member

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    The other item I’m thinking about:
    I know I will lose VOD access going to a cable card. I didn’t think this was a big deal because the big networks have apps that let me log in with the FIOS account and give me access to content. However, I just noticed CBS access through the app has less “free” content than the FIOS VOD.
    Does anyone know more about the difference between apps and VOD?

    Edit: Appears that the FIOS tv app allows VOD access.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2018
  5. Drpepr

    Drpepr New Member

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    So a couple of weeks in and wish I had switched to TiVo years ago.

    1. Originally was going to buy a Bolt 1tb using a purchased promo code (tsn) but glad I did not. The 6 tuners turned out to be necessary.

    2. Setup the mini to slingbox and works fine.

    3. Echo device integrates well

    4. Ok with the “upgrade” to hydra. System is not fast but at an acceptable speed.

    5. Wish onepass was better at rejecting reruns. Would like better and more apps. Still need to switch frequently to firestick for streaming.

    6. Glad slide and peanut remotes came with my purchase. Didnt realize how helpful they are when looking to first purchase.
     
  6. schatham

    schatham Active Member

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    Is onepass set to new only? I find some news shows repeat as new so I use manual recording by date and time. This can be set up to repeat how you want it to.
     
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  7. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    For some channels (e.g.: Smithsonian) prepare to live with no acceptable one-pass solution. Smithsonian repeats episodes of their shows multiple times and new-only does not filter them out. I've complained to Tivo several times about this more than a year ago.
     
  8. Drpepr

    Drpepr New Member

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    Agreed. I use the new only....I guess this is beyond TiVo control as they just pass along information given to them by the channels.
     
  9. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    Possibly an excuse in some cases, although my (admittedly hazy) memory is that such problems were much less before TiVo switched to using Rovi (now "TiVo") guide data.

    In the case of Smithsonian, I can easily believe the fault is not TiVo's. Last week they were promoting an upcoming episode of "Mighty Planes" as "all new" when in fact it had already been shown last year. I had an extended back-and-forth with their support in which they were conveniently clueless. They admitted that no new episodes of this series had been produced since 2017 but forced me to email a TV screen photo showing the promotional message before they would do anything about it (if they are indeed actually doing anything). Their website also was promoting the episode as "all new".
     
  10. mdavej

    mdavej Well-Known Member

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    100% TiVo’s fault. Not beyond their control at all. Prior to Rovi, this info was rarely wrong. Rovi has always been an incompetent guide data provider. They deserve none of the slack you’re cutting them.
     
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  11. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    Sorry, they screw it up. There are two popular sources of guide data. TiVo and Gracenote. TiVo is also used by tvguide.com, and mostly has the same errors. The web site zap2it uses Gracenote and is 99% reliable. I find titantv.com seems just as good with a better interface, but no proof it uses Gracenote.

    It all comes down to this:
    did the network give out bad data?
    did TiVo mess it up?
    did TiVo send it out and your unit messed it up?
     
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  12. Soapm

    Soapm Active Member

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    So what blame does Tivo deserve, picking Rovi as their data provider???
     
  13. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    Rovi bought TiVo two years ago and renamed themselves TiVo.
     
  14. Soapm

    Soapm Active Member

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    Oh, didn't know that... Thanks
     
  15. PCurry57

    PCurry57 Liberal Hippie Chick

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    Because CBS sells their own streaming service "CBS AllAccess". If they allowed their content on other platforms how would they drive (satisfy their GREED) sales of their platform.

    Sent from my SM-T817P using Tapatalk
     
  16. schatham

    schatham Active Member

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    Agree about the Smithsonian channel. I've never seen such a useless guide listing as this channel.
     

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