Setting Up Moca LAN with BOLT (OTA)

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  1. John Nokomis

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  4. krkaufman

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    Can you detail what is connected to each of the 3-way splitter's ports?

    IN)
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    3)

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  5. John Nokomis

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    Sorry for multiple posts
     
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    1 modem
    2 moca adapter
    3 coax to house
     
  7. krkaufman

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    And the "IN" port?

    As for the "coax to house" ... Are you saying that this coax line is the one that runs to your Attic, and so provides the connection to ALL of the coax outlets for the rest of the house?
     
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    The import is from Comcast line in.
     
  9. krkaufman

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    Ok, given what you've detailed, with the rest of your rooms downstream of output port #3, you should install the "PoE" MoCA filter on the input of that 3-way splitter, since you're trying to keep the MoCA signals as strong as possible between the MoCA adapter and all the devices downstream of this splitter.

    IN) [PoE MoCA filter] Comcast feed
    1) modem
    2) MoCA adapter
    3) coax to house​

    As an alternative, you could go back to your 2-way splitter (w/ the "PoE" MoCA filter on its input), and use the ECB2500C pass-through port for the modem.

    IN) [PoE MoCA filter] Comcast feed
    1) ECB2500C[IN] :: ECB2500C[Out] >>> modem
    2) coax to house​

    Exactly how the rest of the rooms connect remains a mystery, but the critical information is that you're saying that they all connect via this one coax line. (i.e. You don't have a central junction upstream from Bedroom 1; you have two separate coax lines from the ONT and Xfinity boxes direct to Bedroom 1, and then a single coax line heading to the Attic from which the rest of the coax runs emanate.)
     
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    Is this correct?
     
  11. John Nokomis

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    When the roamio's coax port was connected to the g1100 , the g1100 had two imports, one coax and one Ethernet. Those have not been removed off of the g1100 which is put to the side for now. The coax connected to the roamio was then moved to the ecb2500 (the other day I tried the Arris modem/ router 1682), the ota coax connected to the roamio. The cable card removed, guided set up and then I had internet but no mini lan. And then after removing filter, no internet lan
     
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    Yes
     
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    Attempting to get your Comcast-LAN/Roamio via OTA setup working...

    2-way splitter connections in Bedroom 1 ::
    IN) [PoE MoCA filter] Comcast feed
    1) ECB2500C[IN]
    2) coax to house​

    Also in Bedroom 1 ::
    1. Modem coax-connected to ECB2500C[TV/STB Out] pass-through port
    2. Modem connected via Ethernet to WAN port of Archer C20
    3. ECB2500C connected via Ethernet to LAN port on Archer C20
    4. Roamio connected via Ethernet to LAN port on Archer C20
    5. Antenna coax-connected to Roamio coax port
    The rest of the home coax connected via the "coax to house" line. (It sounds like you have zero control over those connections, at present, owing to their being in the Attic under insulation.)
     
  14. krkaufman

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    What does this "reconnect the Frontier setup" procedure entail?
     
  15. John Nokomis

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    Remove the ota coax on the back of the roamio and replace it with the coax going to the house. Connect 1100 to Ethernet on the roamio. Put the cable card back in and repeated set up....

    I did everything,exactly and then removed filter but it did not work. I lost internet entirely using the adapter.the router has a red/Amber light- probably because it's not getting signal. Reset the , no avail.has to be an outside filter irthe adapter
     
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    You did “everything exactly” according to what? I don’t know what it is that you’re saying didn’t work.

    Given my current understanding, which is hopefully accurate, your Bedroom 1 setup for an OTA/Comcast LAN configuration should be similar to that in my just prior post, here.*
     
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    * NOTE: As covered in a previous post, the 2-way splitter could be replaced with a 3-way, as follows...
    3-way splitter connections in Bedroom 1 ::
    IN) [PoE MoCA filter] Comcast feed
    1) modem (may require a separate protective MoCA filter on modem input if modem is unstable with MoCA active)
    2) MoCA adapter[IN]
    3) coax to house​

    Also...
    1. Out port of MoCA adapter should be capped with a 75-ohm terminator when unused.
    2+ (as above)

     
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    Yes, I'm sorry I meant to reference that specific post. I even changed one cable but that wasn't it either. I triple checked each item

    For now, I could hammer fronter for an internet only which I did but the email confirmation was just so off, I said time to go to Comcast. Well, the router and modem are still returnable and one day I'll get the ota working. Now it'll be Hulu live using fire TV stick .
     
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    This is one of the things I don’t understand, and goes back to my earlier post suggesting that you attack the migration in smaller manageable chunks, with shorter hurdles to success.

    Why can’t you have OTA working right now? You already said you have a direct OTA antenna connection available. Keeping the Roamio and Minis networked on the FiOS LAN (Roamio via Ethernet and Minis via MoCA), just connect the OTA antenna coax to the Roamio and run Guided Setup for an OTA connection.

    You’ll be tuning OTA on the Roamio and feeding that content to the Minis over the FiOS LAN.

    p.s. A side benefit of this approach (committing to OTA for the Roamio) is that you wouldn’t have to keep re-running Guided Setup on the DVR. In fact, the Roamio should automatically update its network settings if you move it between LANs just by dis- and re-connecting its Ethernet cable, or rebooting the DVR.

     
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    I think this is a 75-ohm terminator
    Yes, that's exactly what I'm going to do. I call frontier tell them I'm rethinking leaving and would be real accurate on their costs. I do want to buy my own gateway or router that'll work with both and over time save. TiVo I have to negotiate a lifetime option. My Workman must get up on that 38 foot ladder and adjust antenna positioning with me down on ground reading tivo's signal meter. For now I've paid frontier July 15, might as well watch the cable TV live although as I type the familiar same repetitive commercials bunched together are playing.

    So using fire stick for live TV other than ota's is a little more cumbersome and slight freezes.

    A huge thank you. I truly appreciate it.
     

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