Setting Up Moca LAN with BOLT (OTA)

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  1. krkaufman

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    Putting the Amphenol aside, the discussion still lacks the details on through what components your coax locations interconnect. The above description seems to indicate a second coax connection in Bedroom 1, in use by the G1100 and so necessarily still connected back to the FiOS ONT, but what's not clear is where your central coax junction is and how the coax runs are currently connected, whether to FiOS or Comcast and through what component(s). The diagram indicates the ONT and Xfinity point-of-entry are near each other, but is there a central junction to which each of these connections first route?

    edit: Do you have the ability to open the outside Xfinity box and take a pic of its contents? Same for the FiOS ONT? (Ditto for any central junction panel.)
     
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  2. John Nokomis

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    I connected the ecb2500 to the Archer20 router. the comcast guy had put the splitter there and filter on the input. The lan is working as my pc is operational, speedtest 110/52 (could be slowed by the ecb2500. But I removed cable card, did another guided set up and the tivo DVR worked but the mini's cannot find network. And I think the speed is spotty.

    also, I don't know what the coax line coming into the FIOS G1100 did, I thought it also connected to the port outside, if not then there's another feed of coax to the house.

    also the extender is receiving and broadcasting good signal
     
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    the pics are too large to upload. how do i compress them. the jpeg even reduced on my phone 0.9 megs wouldn't upload
     
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    but insode the ONT is a coax and ethernet. inside the xfinity box wire connected and a ground to the connector


    On the internet via the pc, I notice it's a little delayed at time. Like graphs come up slower than I'm used to.

    Maybe just spring for the 2.0 motorola and use FIOS until I get it
     
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    https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ejzjhmu2fnKky79c6

    not sure if you can open that

    ok, now I replaced the input splitter (from 2 outputs to 3 ) and SV-3g digital splitter 5-1002MHz
    and connected the old coax that was attached to roamio (where the OTa now connects), the coax line that goes out to the ONT box and the last one feeds the ebc2500 Moca adapter.

    doing a repeated guided set and see what happens
     
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  6. krkaufman

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    the guided setup on the roamio was successful. the tv connected to that works, albeit I live OTA is there but I have yet to better position the antenna. The apps work on the tv attached to the roamio.

    the mini says it cannot find net work. no apps, no ota tv however, I do a network Tivo service connection and it completes it successfully. wait, now it won't connect- no network connection.- now i'm confused might wnt to go back again to fromtier- afew days later with a fresh mind and get it done.
     
  8. krkaufman

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    Is this the splitter you're referring to, with its outputs running to your Netgear CM1000 modem and the ECB2500C?

    2-way spliter w PoE filter.jpg
    If so, remove the "PoE" MoCA filter from the input of that splitter. Or entirely remove the splitter *and* filter, and just connect the modem via the ECB2500C's RF pass-through port (TV/STB Out port).

    I expect that your Comcast tech installed that MoCA filter improperly. A MoCA filter BLOCKS MoCA signals, so no MoCA signals would be passing through that 2-way splitter's input port ... necessary for your MoCA signals to reach the wall outlet and the rest of your coax plant, to which the Mini's wall outlets should be connected.

    Typically, a "PoE" MoCA filter should be installed on the signal point-of-entry (PoE) to a coax plant, and optimally on the first split encountered by the incoming signal. This is typically in an outside junction box or a central junction panel ... but almost never inside a room in the home, barring unorthodox coax wiring.
     
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  9. krkaufman

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    Yeah, not sure what this component is, as it seems to be more than just a ground block.

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    Can you see any part number on it? (It *may* be a combo ground block and "PoE" MoCA filter, but you'd want to be sure before assuming you're covered on the PoE filter front.)

    Critically, though, I still have zero understanding of how the rooms interconnect. Is there a central junction, somewhere inside the home (basement, hallway closet, crawlspace, drop ceiling), where all your coax lines come together (from which the runs all emanate)?
     
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    To be honest, I'm still unclear on the status of what devices are connected to your FiOS vs Comcast setup, whether the FiOS setup remains operational, and so don't know how to process this statement.
     
  11. John Nokomis

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    I removed the filter and replaced the it with the three way splitter one to router, one to coax to other rooms and one to moca adapter. I lost the internet lan, I had it but no video/ mini.
    The extender was the wcb3000 and was connecting to internet via comcast
     
  12. krkaufman

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    This just seems like a random connection of coax lines. If you're trying to get MoCA working on your Comcast-connected coax setup, why would you be connecting the coax line that runs to the ONT?

    We need to get back to basics. In regards to this picture, exactly what was connected to the input and output ports of this 2-way splitter?

    2-way spliter w PoE filter.jpg
     
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    You could very well be spot on with that outside ground/possibly filter.
    I'm not going to do that. I feel defeated. I have a couple of prepaid weeks with frontier so for sanity, I look at again when I'm fresher
     
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    I didn't connect it to the moca adapter with the ont , it was a thought but I stopped.reflects tired. Correction. The splitter connects to the modem , the coax to other rooms
    And the moca adapter which is plugged into the router
     
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  15. krkaufman

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    I feel as I may have misunderstood your earlier reply.

    How many coax lines (wall outlet connections) do you have in Bedroom 1?

    My current understanding is that you may have three:
    1) G1100 coax connection
    2) Comcast connection
    3) A coax line to "other rooms"??

    This really *is* a simple thing, but there is insufficient information on what coax lines are present and how they interconnect. Your diagram was helpful in identifying some device locations but it's incomplete without detail on how the rooms interconnect via coax.
     
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    It worked with fios, not somehow with this set up. At one point getting internet over the coax was great but no mini connection
     
  18. krkaufman

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    Was it like this, as annotated in the attached picture?

    2-way spliter w PoE filter - annotated.jpg
     
  19. John Nokomis

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    There is one coax line which goes into the attic, and under 4feet of sprayed insulation. That is where there are junctions, I assume.
    I'm just trying push the signal like it was with frontier
     
  20. John Nokomis

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    I would send you another picture of the three way splitter now installed (pictured earlier without being connected) but my desktop Internet is out. I have reconnect the frontier setup.
     

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