Series3 eSATA Drive Expansion: FAQ + Discussion

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  1. jlib

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    I'm not convinced that those eSATA issues can be extended to the internal "A" drive. I have had a full internal 1TB drive (so much so I regularly get the little notice that says if you record such and such then this other show will have to be deleted early to make space) including 100+ Season Passes for the last 9 months and have never experienced any noticeable performance problems that I could tie to lack of free space. In fact, I can't think of any performance issues since the slow reordering of SPs was fixed a while back.
     
  2. platbr

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    Other than losing programs, I presume there is no harm in giving the eSATA drive a shot, and if it has problems in a few months just divorcing, imaging, and swapping the 750 GB drive to be a single internal drive?

    I'll confess I was drawn to the eSATA solution by the ease of kickstart 62. I'm not too intimidated by pulling the Tivo open to upgrade the drive, but after having issues years ago with a Series 1 DirecTivo (powersurge = nostart), I'd hate to void my warranty before its time. god help me if my actions again infringe on the 3 yr. old's morning Bob the Builder routine ;-).
     
  3. richsadams

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    That's good news. We'll keep our fingers crossed!
     
  4. richsadams

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    Yes, there's no indication that anything is compromised if an eSATA drive is connected and then properly divorced later.

    FYI a post on another thread said that TiVo will be releasing an S3 software upgrade near month's end. The OP was told that it will address the macroblocking issue some are seeing so there's nothing to say that it will have any affect on the eSATA problems, but one can only hope.
     
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    Sorry if this was asked before, but there are 41 pages to this thread now, and this wasn't in the FAQ first-post of the thread.

    If I upgrade with a 1 TB eSATA drive now and want to upgrade the internal SATA drive to 1 TB as well later, will I have to divorce first and lose shows, or can the internal be upgraded in place? Can the new MFS Tools move shows from a pair of drives to a new pair with a larger internal drive, increasing the number of shows retainable in a divorce, or is the painless TiVo-performed divorce (how about "annulment"?) not possible with a larger internal drive?
     
  6. robus

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    Came back from vacation to find Tivo locked up because the DVR Xpander was not responding :( - after multiple attempts to get it to reconnect I had to switch back to single drive mode. Meaning we lost a bunch of recent recordings.

    Really unhappy - and unsure whether to gamble on eSATA again.

    Robert.
     
  7. richsadams

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    That sucks. :( Did your Apricorn drive actually die?
     
  8. jtrain

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    Beginning last night, while on FOX 12 HD (OTA), the S3 locked up and rebooted. This morning as I came downstairs, I noticed that the rebooting process was once again running, and then this afternoon, my wife lets me know that it has done it again. I never had an issue prior to the connection of the eSATA drive (ANTEC MX-1 w/ DB 35 500GB). Could the reboots be connected to the eSATA installation? Any help or suggestions are appreciated. Thank you.
     
  9. GT1Boy

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    What time did this occur and do you have closed captions on? Was your other tuner was on KATU-DT? A couple of us Series3 owners in the AVS Forums have noticed that our TiVos have rebooted when watching KATU-DT newscasts or newbreaks with the digital closed captions turned on. It typically happens during the weather segments where the captions become garbled. I emailed the engineering dept at KATU back in March but never received a response. TiVo Support has info on it though.
     
  10. richsadams

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    Wow, that's interesting. I was going to suggest checking the eSATA cable to ensure it's properly seated on both ends. I had never heard about the closed caption issue until now. Wonder if it's a problem elsewhere as well? Thanks and any links would be appreciated. :up:
     
  11. jboy

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    Frys has a sale on them, $179. The drive gets good reviews on NewEgg.

    BTW, my Seagate ST3500630NS died after 2 months in an Apricorn enclosure!!!

    jerry
     
  12. robus

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    Yep - it was making a very unhappy rev up/down noise - like it couldn't get going.

    Robert
     
  13. ctcraig

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    I did the kickstart 57, got the GSOD with message. It didn't seem to take very long to complete the disk repair. Well it did another reboot about 2 hours after the kickstart 57. Not a good sign. The little bugger ran great for days in single drive mode, and 3 hrs after multi-drive boom.

    Sigh. I'm hopeful that that was a restart for some other reason. I'll keep ya'll posted

    Cheers!
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  14. richsadams

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    How unfortunate. Drives go bad; a fact of life I guess. Apricorn was using WD drives the last I checked. At least it's under warranty, but that doesn't save your programs. :mad:
     
  15. richsadams

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    I can't recall if you had replaced your eSATA cable at some point. If not, that might be an option. They seem to be delicate at best. The first post on this thread has a list of quality replacements.
     
  16. Kenji

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    This just happened with my Apricorn DVR Xpander too. I cycled its power a couple times, and now it seems to be working fine, but this incident doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling...
     
  17. robus

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    Hey Kenji,

    Glad that worked for you - I was desperately trying to get it to sync with the TiVo again (in order to avoid losing a bunch of shows) - tried that and power-cycling the TiVo box too - but it didn't work for me.

    I'd recommend not putting off the shows you really want to watch!

    Robert.
     
  18. dqdude

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    I am going to be adding a 750gb DB35 eSata drive to an already upgraded 750GB DB35 internal drive. I have read and reread the directions for adding an external drive to an already upgraded and the instructions do not seem very clear.

    Am I missing something or are there better instructions out there?
     
  19. richsadams

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    It's probably best to PM Spike2K5. He's the expert.
     
  20. jtrain

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    After looking once more at the setup to verify everything, the S3 rebooted again and this time I received the 2nd Drive Error Message on the screen. I shut down the TiVo once more, powered down the eSATA drive and disconnected it to return to the single-drive mode (and no reboots since that time).

    I'm using the eSATA cable that came with the Antec MX-1 enclosure. Should I be using a different one? That's the only thing I can think of, the fan and ventilation was proper and working.

    And thank you for the suggestion on KATU-DT with closed caption, but no, I don't use closed captioning at all and the other tuner was not on KATU-DT, but on an analog station.

    Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated. Thank you!
     

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