Series3 eSATA Drive Expansion: FAQ + Discussion

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  1. Aug 9, 2007 #1561 of 2123
    crowfan

    crowfan The Dude abides

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    Hi folks,

    I have the Seagate ST3500601XS-RK eSata drive + enclosure hooked up to my S3 and it's working fine. But this drive does not boot up when I lose power and it gets restored. So I'd like to pull the drive out of here and put it into another external enclosure, like this one. I also like that this enclosure has a fan.

    Has anyone tried to take apart the Seagate ST3500601XS-RK and take out the drive? How did it work? Any things I should watch out for, tips, etc.?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Aug 9, 2007 #1562 of 2123
    donaudio

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    I just hooked up my third Seagate FAP without any trouble. Now using a Siig cable. Will let you know how long it lasts. It's a good thing that it has a five year warranty. Don
     
  3. Aug 9, 2007 #1563 of 2123
    Flappjakk

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    My 120GB drive didn't work either. I guess this enclosure attempting to convert IDE HDDs to eSATA just doesn't agree with Tivo.

    Thanks again to all who helped. I'm done.
     
  4. Aug 9, 2007 #1564 of 2123
    richsadams

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    You shouldn't have any trouble removing your drive from its current enclosure although it will likely void the warranty. But unless you already have the drive enclosure you referenced, I'm curious why you would go with an unknown quantity instead of a proven enclosure like Antec's MX-1? Price? It's only a few dollars more, is dead silent, has a fan and comes with the proper cable. :confused:
     
  5. Aug 9, 2007 #1565 of 2123
    richsadams

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    :mad: :mad: :mad: Sorry to hear that. Are you going to try upgrading the internal drive?

    Thanks for keeping us posted all along...you're another trooper that deserves a new battle ribbon! :up:
     
  6. JRJr

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    New to this forum, and I've had my S3 since late last Fall, 2006. Moved to TIVO from ReplayTV (which I still like, despite it's lack of HD), but I do surely love this TIVO.

    I have not tried adding any additional storage to my S3, but I am considering it. In answer to the question about light activity, I have an MX-1 connected via eSATA to my PC, and the blue light on mine does flicker when I'm writing data to it. I would suppose the same should happen with the S3 setup.

    I've bought a 2nd MX-1, arrived yesterday, but may hold off until TIVO officially supports the eSATA port before expanding. Hardware issues invariably seem to be my greatest weakness in the PC arena.

    A question: I know how to find out how many total hours I can store, either as the S3 came or after expanding its capacity. But is there a way to find out how many hours I have LEFT available? It's not an issue with me thus far, but am curious about it. My ReplayTV shows me this info on my main guide screen all of the time, and I find it useful.

    Thanks.
     
  7. snathanb

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    I think (and I am too lazy to go back and look again) that I read somewhere (howz that for a source :) ) that when TIVO does official support the eSATA port, they will only official support its use with an official TIVO eSATA drive. Much like they only officially support their own branded wireless adapter now.

    If that is the case, then there really is no reason to wait, as your MX-1 wouldn't ever be officially sanctioned.
     
  8. snathanb

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    About the closest thing you can do is count up the items in your recently deleted folder to determine how much space is left. It doesn't remove the items from the recently deleted folder until the space needs to be reclaimed for new recordings.
     
  9. fred2

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    (slowly I turn, well, not really)

    First, I can see your reluctance on upgrading since there are still some very IFFY stories.

    I can tell you are new to the forum..... The whole issue of Tivo showing how much space is used or left is one I've seen regularly debated. I favor your approach - more info. But there are diehards here who see no reason for it and see no reason to even ask for it. The issue it is merely an estimate since things can be automatically deleted and in the next two seconds, Tivo might start recording a Wishlist item, a season pass item, etc. I still see no problem providing that info but since it has been requested since the dinosaurs and tivo has not provided it - it probably will not happen.

    Welcome to the forum. My esata upgrade has been working fine since I shook down the cable issue - I've got the Seagate FAP and a trimmed (don't look at it wrong) cable.
     
  10. crowfan

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    Well, the MX-1 is almost twice the price. The one I linked to has a fan, and a hard power switch. I already have the cable, and the one I linked to is listed in the first post of this thread as being tested and working properly. I don't care all that much about the noise (or looks, frankly) since it will be in a cabinet. I didn't think about the warranty, so that's something to consider.
     
  11. JRJr

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    Thanks to all for your prompt replies. Yes I think you are right, if TIVO will only support their drive, then waiting is pointless. I haven't actually run into a shortage of time yet as I don't seem to record/watch all that much. I must be the last person in America who doesn't (& won't) have cable... another story though. But having the option of adding more recording space is nice to know. On ReplayTV I had about 65 hours, and that was nearly full all the time.

    As for the time remaining issue, my apologies for not researching this beforehand. I KNOW better! I guess just being aware of how much is left let's me know if I should speed up my watching, or maybe manually deleting some things myself. But I'll refrain from continuing this subject on this thread, and do some searching.

    Again, Thanks for your comments.

    BTW, I bought my first MX-1 for $55 including shipping, and the second for $45 (also incl. shipping) from the same place, after a $10 "reward" for posting a site-review.
     
  12. hunts

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    I just picked up the Antec MX-1 from staples.com using the jellyfish.com engine. The price after "cash back" should be around $55. Now I don't rememeber where there was a low cost place to buy the DB35s? I searched around the previous pages, but do not see where most people bought them from. I am looking for the 750 GB version of the DB35 and I did notice that there are 2 models to choose from. Which one am I looking to get?

    Seagate DB35 750Gb ST3750640SCE Yes Yes
    Seagate DB35 750Gb ST3750840SCE Yes Yes

    Edit: Is referral linking against posting guidelines? I currently do not have the referral link there, but if it is allowed, I would like to attach it.
     
  13. jrpeterson5

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    The ST3750640SCE has a 16MB cache buffer and the ST3750840SCE has an 8MB cache buffer. To my knowledge, at this time, you can only purchase the 8MB cache and I beileve the 16MB cache drive has been discontinued. So that's an easy decision for you! :D
     
  14. richsadams

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    Okay...money's always an issue with me too. ;) But since I spent a boat load of money on my TiVo S3 (compared to the TiVo HD :mad: ), I guess in my mind twenty bucks or so isn't that much.

    Excaliberpc.com has it here for only $16 more ($49.99). That's where we bought ours...brilliant service and it arrived in less than 48 hours with regular shipping. :up:

    Okay, 'nuff said about that! ;) Keep us posted!
     
  15. richsadams

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    We bought both our MX-1 and Seagate DB35 drive from excaliberpc.com. The recommended 750GB DB35 (ST3750840SCE) is listed here for what appears to be a competitive price. As mentioned previously their service was excellent.
     
  16. ctcraig

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    Well I"m back
    my Series 3 with Apricorn DVR Xpander started to continuously reboot a couple of days ago. It worked fine for alomost 2 months! I've divorced it, married it, divorced it again and remarried and still the same problem.

    The TiVo works perfect now in single drive mode.

    ANy thoughts would be appreciated!

    cheers

    Chuck
     
  17. jrpeterson5

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    Hi Chuck. Here's my post from a week or so ago. The restarts were what plagued me as well. My S3 ran fine for about 4 weeks with the upgrade and then started to act up.

    Well, I'm happy to say I divorced the drive, imaged the 500GB drive, installed it in the S3 and now it works PERFECTLY as a single drive S3. Not a restart, stutter, or strange act to be found. :D So I'm not offering much help except the fact that I had the same scenario and reverting to a single drive seemed to fix all the problems.

    Good luck!
     
  18. ctcraig

    ctcraig New Member

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    Thanks for the reply

    I may in the future grab a new internal drive and see what's what, or wait until TiVo brands their own external ESATA drive

    Cheers!

    Chuck
     
  19. JohnBrowning

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    My MX-1/DB35 combo worked perfect for a couple months, now I get fairly regular freeze-ups and require reboots. I'm wondering if the TiVo firmware is getting confused over free space management. I went in and manually deleted everything in the "Recently Deleted" folder. That seems to have helped some, but, doesn't appear to be the total answer. I wonder if the TiVo splits recordings across drives and that could be contributing to the problem.
     
  20. ctcraig

    ctcraig New Member

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    I was hoping the "divorce" would do the same thing as your deleting. However the reboots continued. I'm not sure what to try next

    Cheers

    Chuck
     

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