Series3 eSATA Drive Expansion: FAQ + Discussion

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, May 5, 2007.

  1. George Cifranci

    George Cifranci TiVo Bolt 500GB - TE4 UI

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    That's good to hear. I just installed the SIIG cable on my MX-1 setup after I had a reboot a week ago and a lockup the other day using the cable that came with my MX-1.
     
  2. GooberMan

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    My internal drive is one of those "drop in" drives that already had Tivo software preloaded. Is there a possibility that it will have the correct partition structure to work with kickstart 62?
     
  3. George Cifranci

    George Cifranci TiVo Bolt 500GB - TE4 UI

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    Nope. I have one of those too (a Weakness preloaded 750GB Seagate DB35). I had to hook up both drives to my PC and used the MFSLive v1.2 CD. A fairly simple process.
     
  4. bonnie_raitt

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    Got my second GSOD on a Seagate 750 GB drive and Icy Dock enclosure combo. It's been 4 weeks since the last one. That one occurred 3 weeks after initial install.

    I turned off Tivo waited 30 seconds and plugged it back in. Everything came back fine after about 15 minutes.

    Que sera, sera
     
  5. BruceShultes

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    1TB Hitachi Deskstar.
     
  6. BruceShultes

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    Two things to mention about the case assembly, drive installation.

    1. Make sure you have some container to hold all the pieces as you remove and then replace them in the case (I spent half an hour finding a screw that rolled on the floor).

    2. You need either a screwdriver with a clamp on the end to hold the screw in place or a spring loaded screw holder (included in many PC tool sets) to perform the same function (Unless you have really narrow fingers, there is no way to fit your fingers between the edge of the drive sled and the drive to re-attach the sled).
     
  7. richsadams

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    That part's a real bugger indeed. I had neither, nor are my fingers particularly narrow. It took me about a half-dozen times of dropping the tiny screws into the case and retrieving them before I could get them back into either side. That's a little part they gloss over in their tutorial.

    But that's probably the worst of it. All-in-all I think the MX-1 is one of the best external drive enclosures I've worked with to date. It’s solid, cool and very quiet...looks nice too! :up:
     
  8. T-Shee

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    He's right. Consider it the 1st Law of All Projects - USE THE RIGHT TOOLS, and you'll do it right. Small containers, coffee cups, whatever's handy, are a must.

    I didn't find the sled screws difficult at all, perhaps because I'm a retired IT tech and doing assem/disassem of this type for years. A complete set of good quality jeweler's screw drivers helps alot - I usually find that one size will allow you "attach" the screw to the driver head without it falling off - then pop it in and tighten. Magnetic drivers are indespensible for narrow access work like the MX-1.

    Ask pretty much any tech and they'll tell you that for this type of work, especially laptop reassembly, you put the screw on the screwdriver, then to the workpiece. Makes it about 10X easier.
     
  9. maynerd

    maynerd New Member

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    Installed my DB35 into my MX-1. Hooked it up to my tivo and followed all the instructions. After a few minutes my external HD was recognized and everything seems to be working. Awesome!

    Thanks for your help folks!
     
  10. richsadams

    richsadams Well-Known Member

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    Congrats and enjoy! ;)
     
  11. GooberMan

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    What is the difference between the Seagate ST3750640AS and the ST3750640NS? The NS is on the list of "confirmed working" drives, but the AS is not. Would the AS work just as well?
     
  12. maynerd

    maynerd New Member

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    I believe the NS is rated for 24/7 operation while the AS is not.
     
  13. GooberMan

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    Thanks for that reply. Another question I had is on the FAQ it lists whether to drive is made for DVRs in a separate column from 24/7 operation. Other than 24/7, what makes a drive suitable for a DVR? I have so much noise (fans, receivers, etc.) in my enclosed case that noise isn't an issue. I could save money and get a drive certified for 24/7 that is not "made for a DVR," if noise is the only other factor.
     
  14. maynerd

    maynerd New Member

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    I believe, and someone can correct me here, that 24/7 is intended for enterprise solutions where companies run them all the time (no sleep state) while the drives are intended for DVR may be quieter on top of the 24/7 operation.

    Here's a comparision from the segate website.

    DB35
    NS drives

     
  15. GooberMan

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    So how easy is using the MFSLIVE procedure to add eSATA? Connect original drive to SATA A, eSATA to SATA B (will eSATA cable work internally?), boot from MFSLIVE CD, type "mfsadd -ex -r 4 /dev/sda /dev/sdb"? Is that it? What else do I need to know?
     
  16. maynerd

    maynerd New Member

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    I can't help you man you're talkin greek to me. :) I just got a DB35 drive and an MX-1 external enclosure and hooked it up and it worked in minutes! :)
     
  17. moxie1617

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    Only needed if you have added a larger HD to the S3. If it's the orginal drive just plug the e-sata drive in and use the kickstart 62.
    Check here.
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5233788&&#post5233788
    and here.
    http://www.mfslive.org/softwareguidep5.htm
     
  18. oldnacl

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    I'm now on my 3rd day without problems using the Rosewill case and Tripp-Lite 36" cable (switched from 72" SIIG cable. I also moved the TiVo and eSATA drive further from my UPS (no mean feat). Yesterday the replacement FAP750 arrived so tonight I'll connect it. The saga continues.
     
  19. GooberMan

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  20. richsadams

    richsadams Well-Known Member

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    Cheers for keeping us posted! :up:
     

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