Series1 DirecTiVo Software Update (3.5.0) Migration Thread

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  1. May 10, 2006 #81 of 304
    ptcartman

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    Thanks for the detailed instructions, ronha, but I have a question.

    Your instructions take the system back to the previous version. Is that because there is no way for the CacheCard to function on the new version? The opening post in this thread states that the CacheCard won't function because the drivers aren't there, but it's a little vague on whether it will work ever.

    Is it just a waiting game until the PTVUgrade people get a chance to make it all work again?

    Thanks again.
     
  2. May 10, 2006 #82 of 304
    lew

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    Some PCs won't let you boot from a CD that's on the secondary controller.

    Just go to the Silcondust website and D/L the the image file. Let it kill the intrid and load the drivers and your're good to go.

    http://www.silicondust.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2
     
  3. May 10, 2006 #83 of 304
    lew

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    The waiting game is for PTVUpgrade, or others, to distribute a LBA48 hacked kernel. Other than that you already have the tools. CacheCard won't work because the new software doesn't have the drivers so you have to install them yourself.
     
  4. May 10, 2006 #84 of 304
    ronha

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    Thanks for all the comments everyone. I go by Ron, I should have signed it but I was pretty nervous. I wanted to be accurate and this is the first post I've ever made, so first time jitters.

    Thanks Matt for pointing out that I was actually wiping the disk and starting over. My wife had pretty much gone into a permanent attitude about not being able to record and watch her shows, so it became obvious that we couldn't wait for a fix.

    When they finally do release a fix, (and I mean to everything), WebPlus, ext.. then I'll just remove those exit 0's and the bootpage mod and let it upgrade. While it was upgraded I looked at it to see what it did. I really couldn't understand why they sent it out at all. I'm sure someone that knows more than me, and that's anybody, knows.

    I need some help if anyone knows how to do it. Since everythings back in place my TyTool doesn't work. I can't find the information on installing it. I mean I searched and found it, but why are the not steps all together? I hate having the instructions say something like, "you may need unscambler, but I'll assume you know how to install that".. arrrggg! Everyone is not a Tivo god.

    So please let me know what I should do, if you can. Hey, truly all you guys and gals are a great group of people and this site is awesome. It just is overwhelming to find the information when you don't have a clue what you need to do.

    Thanks all!
    Ron
     
  5. May 10, 2006 #85 of 304
    Blackfoot

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    You need to put tserver on your tivo and don't forget to change the attributes so it can execute. From a bash prompt, this can be accomplished with the CHMOD command. Assuming you put tserver in /var/hacks, the command would be.
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    chmod 755 /var/hack/tserver
    If you are running an older version of TyTool, say version 9, then you need to put the NowShowing.itcl file with the tserver file. Tserver was updated with version 10 and is not only faster to display the listing, but no longer requires the nowshowing file.

    If you have tserver on your tivo and the attributes are correct, you will want to look at the TyTool setting to make sure that the Execute strings are set correct. By default they point to /var/hack/tserver. This can be found in the Server section of the TyTool Preferences on version 10.

    If all that works but you get an error when you try to edit the key files, then you might have forgotten to apply the CSO patch to tivoapp. Different discussion for a different day that should be on a different forum. PM me if you want to know more.
     
  6. May 10, 2006 #86 of 304
    tivoupgrade

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    Please see the first post of this thread for details (I just updated it). You can download the kernel from here:

    Experimental Kernel

    Special thanks to Todd Miller for providing this.

    Lou

    PS. Guys, please stop talking about extraction here. Thx
     
  7. May 10, 2006 #87 of 304
    terryroe67

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    when is the appropriate time to deploy the experimental kernel?

    is the right time when it is pending a restart? would i copy it to the inactive partition at that time? or is the active partition changed before the reboot

    if it boots to the wrong kernel, will it trash the filesystem or corrupt data? i'm thinking it would probably corrupt data. i'm trying to figure out how much risk there is for me to copy it vs. waiting for an automated script on an iso.
     
  8. May 11, 2006 #88 of 304
    tivo-com_guy

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    I got the awful 3.5 update.
    I "Instantcaked" the drive.
    I have already gotten the awful 3.5 again.
    This sucks.
     
  9. May 11, 2006 #89 of 304
    lew

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    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=3982479&&#post3982479

    You might want to wait for a script, I don't see any reason to rush to the new software and with a large HD a mistake may corrupt your HD.
     
  10. May 11, 2006 #90 of 304
    jsharper

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    Why did you leave the phone line plugged in (or the dial prefix set to 'dial' over the internet)? It will keep updating if you do.
     
  11. May 11, 2006 #91 of 304
    botcher

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    a phone line is not needed for the update. It is downloaded via satellite, and will trigger automatically, unless software is modified to stop updates.
     
  12. May 11, 2006 #92 of 304
    jsharper

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    It does download from the satellite, but it doesn't automatically install just because it is downloaded. I have not seen a single person report that any update has been actually installed without a call home to get the command to initiate the install (either via phone line or via the internet using the special dial prefix).

    If you have evidence otherwise, please do provide it.
     
  13. May 11, 2006 #93 of 304
    sbourgeo

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    Forgive the tangent from the lba48 talk...

    But, remember when people installed Series 2 standalone software v4 on the Series 2 DirecTivo's and found that it was a universal software distribution that work would on both platforms and enabled HMO on the combo units?

    Has anyone tried installing this version of 3.5 on the corresponding Series 1 standalone TiVo's? It realize that this wouldn't necessarily add much functionality-wise, but the software engineer in me is curious if this is also a "universal" distribution. :)
     
  14. May 11, 2006 #94 of 304
    ensor999

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    What's so "awful" about it?
    I.e. what is worse about 3.5 compared to the previous release (3.1c)?
    I find it handy that the Now Playing list displays faster, can jump to top or bottom via the Skip key, and that scrolling (paging) the list can be repeated before the screen finishes updating (making it faster to move up or down several pages).
     
  15. May 11, 2006 #95 of 304
    cmorr70

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    Why am I experiencing the exact opposite? My "Now Playing" screen hesitates for a second after the first show displays. Not when I page up or down, only when I first pull it up with the "press tivo twice". (DSR6000 w/120GB HD).
     
  16. May 12, 2006 #96 of 304
    claird

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    I have a Series 1 Direct TV Philips 6000, which I upgraded last year to a 160GB single drive with a PTV LBA48 CD. The 3.5 release got me. Is there a way to redo the drive to limit it to <127GB so that 3.5 will work? I am not a Linux guru, so be gentle.
     
  17. May 12, 2006 #97 of 304
    dbrem26

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    Please forgive my ignorance, but can anyone point me to directions on updating my kernel and using tpip. I thought my SAT-T60's Instantcaked 160gb HD had fried until I found this thread this morning. I would like to try to apply the experimental Kernel mentioned in the first thread. I can follow directions well enough, but after spending some time searching the forum for instructions I'm still not sure how to do it without potentially messing things up.
    Also, just as a side note, I had used Hinsdale's how-to and copied the original drive on another SAT-T60 and upgraded that one to a 120gb. It did update to 3.5 and I haven't had any problems with that one. I am assuming that it because it is below 137gb and therefore didn't need LBA48 to begin with.

    Any assistance would be appreciated.

    Thanks!
    David
     
  18. May 12, 2006 #98 of 304
    Francesco

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    OK, so like many others who have not reverted to 3.1, I installed a different drive in my DSR6000 and did a C&DE just to be able to watch. My untouched 200 GB drive with hacks and 3.5 sits on my desk.

    Forgive me for not being able to follow along, but when the new kernel is added to Copykern, will we just be able to install it and add back any missing hacks and Cachecard drivers? Shows will be intact? Or did the file system/db change in any way that would corrupt recordings?
     
  19. May 12, 2006 #99 of 304
    tivoupgrade

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    Please review the first post of this thread for more details, and visit the LBA48 Boot CD thread for information and links to download the updated utilities. Thanks again to Todd Miller who rebuilt the 3.1.0 kernel (now called 3.1.0+), and please understand that is released with the understanding that it is experimental and you should tread at your own risk. With that said, our experiments of the past several days have not revealed any problems.

    Here are some recommended methods for those with > 137 GB drives that have received the 3.5 update and know that they are not currently running an LBA48 kernel. This includes people experiencing reboot loops, and who have content that is unwatchable from the Now Playing list.

    The information below is not intended to be a step-by-step how-to; it is however, a high-level explanation of the steps you need to take. If the information isn't clear to you, or you are uncomfortable researching the use of the tools mentioned below, we will be updating our DIY software tools shortly:

    1) if your network drivers have been blown away, and you haven't reinstalled them yet, now is an opportune time; pull your drive, boot upgrade CD with the Universal Boot CD in Series1 mode (or use any of other boot CD that will allow you to boot in swap mode for mounting Series1 partitions) and run nic_config to reinstall your TurboNet or CacheCard drivers. You should remove your initrd as part of the installation process, if you are asked. Alternatively, you can use the killinitrd tool to do this. after you've done this, go head and reboot with the free LBA48 4.04 CD (earlier versions will NOT work) and run copykern; choose the 3.10+ kernel and it will update it on your TiVo drive; reinstall and you are done

    2) if you aren't using a TurboNet or CacheCard, you should still run killinitrd followed by a copykern in LBA48 mode

    3) if you've already reinstalled your TurboNet or CacheCard drivers, ie you can telnet and ftp to your unit, you can download the 3.1.0+ kernel (or copy it from the LBA48 4.04 CD); it is compressed, so ftp it to your TiVo, and use gzip to uncompress it. either use bootpage to determine your active partition (your kernel partition is your user partition - 1), or just use dd to copy the new kernel to /dev/hda3 and /dev/hda6.
     
  20. tivo-com_guy

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    I never plug in the phone line.

    I assumed that the instant cake would only try the phone line for upgrades.

    Somehow the 3.5 upgrade got through.

    I re-Instantcaked the drive and made sure that BOTH the phone and the ethernet were not connected.

    Still the 3.5 upgrade got through.

    I re-Instantcaked the drive yet again and made sure that the phone AND the ethernet AND the satellite cables were unplugged.

    No 3.5 upgrade got through. (Needless to say, my DTivo was not so useful either)

    I installed "nosdd.tcl" per AlphaWolf's instructions...

    ...satellite cables have been connected for about 12 hours and so far DTivo is free of the cursed 3.5 update...

    So far so good.

    UPDATE 4-14-2006:
    the nosdd.tcl didn't work. The cursed 3.5 update loaded and it is waiting to install... I have modified the re.sysinit file... hopefully this will work.

    Tivocom_guy
     

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