Series 6 TiVo ULTRA UHDTV, UD

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  1. Apr 29, 2015 #1 of 254
    zerdian1

    zerdian1 Roamio PRO, Roamio,

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    I believe we will be seeing a new series of DVRs from TiVo using the new UHDTV 4K format.
    I suspect it will probably look similar to the Roamio.
    It will probably only have 6 tuners.
    I do not know if it will be a device with about 6TB internal storage.
    they may use some of the RAID technology of the MEGA with its hot swapable drives and RAID guarantee not to lose any data or programs even in the presence of a failed disk or fatal disk error.
     
  2. Apr 29, 2015 #2 of 254
    mrizzo80

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    Welcome to the forums. Did you really work on the moon landings? :)
     
  3. Apr 30, 2015 #3 of 254
    bradleys

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    Tivo may choose to release a minor updated Roamio model that can support UHD from streaming providers some time in the future - but 4k from cable is still a very, very long time away.

    I actually expect them to wait and see what happens with the mpeg4 conversions (providers may skip this codec) to ensure the future state is covered.

    All that said - no, a new series tivo is still a long way out.
     
  4. Apr 30, 2015 #4 of 254
    slowbiscuit

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    LOL, 4K DVR for cable.

    April Fools was a month ago, man.
     
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    telemark

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    bradleys

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    I read that back in September... It doesn't change the fact that the only source for 4k content in the foreseeable future will be streaming providers.

    I do see TiVo providing a minor series update with 4k capabilities, but once again the driver will be streaming services such as Netflix - not Linear cable or even broadcast TV.

    I also suspsect this would be considered a minor update and still considered a Series 5 Roamio TiVo.

    As for the other predictions, larger har drives are easy, but I don't suspect raid in anything but the Mega.

    It actually wouldn't suprise me if the next Series TiVo was cloud based as opposed to self contained.
     
  7. Apr 30, 2015 #7 of 254
    b-ball-fanatic

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    Yeesh....Say it ain't so. :(
     
  8. Apr 30, 2015 #8 of 254
    atmuscarella

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    And every new 4K TV will have those service built in so why would someone buy a TiVo just to duplicate them. Next up is likely going to be 4K blu-ray and 4K from the satellite companies but right now TiVo can not play in the satellite market. Son unless TiVo is going to release a 4K DVR with built in 4K blu-ray what's the point, at least until we get closer to 4K cable or OTA?

    Now if Netflix/Amazon/Vudu allowed 4K downloads to a TiVo that might be worth something to people buying a 4K TV with to slow or less reliable Internet access (I think I read somewhere you will need about a 20Mbps stream for high quality 4K).
     
  9. Apr 30, 2015 #9 of 254
    astrohip

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    Zero chance. Totally goes against the concept of a home DVR. And their customer base is not stupid, they know what they're buying. Sales would vanish.

    Zero. Chance.
     
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    atmuscarella

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    I agree near zero chance. Where TiVo may find a home for a cloud DVR is with their MSO customers. There is allot of logic in a cable company moving their DVRs out of their customers homes and to the cloud.
     
  11. Apr 30, 2015 #11 of 254
    bradleys

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    Streaming services are never going to allow downloadable content - they are desperately trying to get away from distributed content to control piracy - no, that will never happen.

    @astrohip - TiVo is trying to consolidate legacy cable with modern streaming services. More and more content is going to be delivered via IP mechanisms. TiVo absolutely will include the new 4k Broadcom ship to support these and future streaming services. And as I said, it will be a minor update.

    Why would you guys think TiVo would give up on the streaming services they have spent so much energy trying to deliver? That makes no sense.

    As for the DVR in the cloud, it won't be that long and all content will be streaming only - maybe, 10 or 15 years and we will be migrating in earnest to cloud based / stream based on demand content.

    Believe it or not, you are living in the glory days of content... It won't continue forever.
     
  12. Apr 30, 2015 #12 of 254
    Mikeguy

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    You mean, from the company that just (secretly) got rid of the Downloads Manager and has been playing passive aggressive on that issue, forcing people to stream the downloaded content instead? That company wouldn't go stream?

    I find that hard to see as well, but, just sayin' . . . .
     
  13. Apr 30, 2015 #13 of 254
    LoveGardenia

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    A cloud service from major studios in Hollywood?? I don't think so. As Apple has proven a cloud service can and will be hacked. Do you think those major studios would allow a cloud base service to be offered by any tv service that requires High Speed internet?
     
  14. Apr 30, 2015 #14 of 254
    bradleys

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    What do you think Ultraviolet is? (Accessed via Vudu on the TiVo)
     
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    L David Matheny

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    I absolutely agree. DVRs are to record content (on local hard drives) for later viewing, with commercial skipping, etc. If that goes away, then TiVo goes away. I hope they understand that.
     
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    bradleys

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    LoveGardenia

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    I forgot about that service.. my mistake.
     
  18. May 1, 2015 #18 of 254
    Dan203

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    There will be no broadcast UHD anytime in the near future. Even with HEVC it's still going to require 25-30Mbps for UHD, which is more then ATSC even supports and would require an entire QAM on cable. I suspect it will be at least 2 more years before we start to see even prototype channels and at least 5 before there are enough to warrant a UHD DVR.
     
  19. May 1, 2015 #19 of 254
    DG3

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    I think people will somehow manage.
     
  20. May 1, 2015 #20 of 254
    b-ball-fanatic

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    Yeah, I think that's really the heart of it. TiVo isn't calling the shots here....they're just trying to keep up with an evolving landscape. Like music distribution before it, video distribution is rapidly becoming a streaming, on-demand, IP-based model. (Those of us with cable may one day look like our parents with their quaint landlines and long-distances plans.....:eek:)
     
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