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  1. jtown

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    Thank you for clarifying. In that case, I'll probably go with the 500 gig KS drive form Western Digital. I can pick one up at Best Buy for $150 with no rebates. Cheaper than anything on pricegrabber.
     
  2. aaronwt

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    Really, only $150 at BB. Newegg has it for $20 to $30 more.
     
  3. c3

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    For 500GB, I would recommend WD5000YS with 5-year warranty.
     
  4. brossow

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    I just ordered one of those last night for my other S3. Would have gone with the YS like I have in my 1TB Thecus setup but I had store credit at Best Buy I wanted to use — no out-of-pocket cash. Already spent enough on the two S3s and the Thecus setup that any money I can save right now is good.
     
  5. aaronwt

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    Is this a special sale for the KS version? I already have a couple of the YS drives to put in my first two S3 boxes but if I can find a KS from BB for $150 I'll get that for my third S3.
    When I just looked on BB website they listed the 500GB KS drive for $250.
     
  6. brossow

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    That's the drive -- sale apparently is over.
     
  7. Jan 1, 2007 #407 of 500
    aaronwt

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    With the Hitachi program to change the acoustic management, what setting is recommended? The setting the program defaults to is 128 or should I set it to the max which I think was 254? I'm using the WD 500Gb drive.

    I also need to see if I can return one. The plastic part around the SATA connector broke off on the drive. I've used around 15 SATA drives and never seen this happen before.
     
  8. Jan 1, 2007 #408 of 500
    greg_burns

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    IIRC, 254 means it is not enabled at all. Make sure you click the OK button as well. It is really easy to exit out of that screen and not make any changes at all.

    Also, I believe there is a test you can run so you can hear the difference for yourself.

    The linux command hdparm uses same values...
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=4431857&highlight=hdparm#post4431857

    I would add that you won't hear a difference when just doing the dd command (if following bumwine method) to copy the drive over. That is a linear copy. Where it makes a noticeable difference is with random seek, like when it is actually being used in the Tivo.

    You need some acoustic management on that sig! Almost had a heart attack! :D
     
  9. Jan 1, 2007 #409 of 500
    brossow

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    Just a quick note that after using my Thecus setup (WD 500GB drives) for a couple weeks without AM enabled, I really don't hear it at all and now that I've pulled the daughtercard with the LEDs out, I don't see it either. Eventually I'll probably enable AM on the drives but it's definitely not a problem as-is from the factory.
     
  10. Jan 1, 2007 #410 of 500
    greg_burns

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    With it enabled on mine I never hear any seeking either. But, you can definately tell it is in the room. Two drives running in that enclosure has a slight just above noise floor level rumble to it. I think I want to move it behind the entertainment cabinet to help mask the sound.

    I never did modify mine any for additional airflow. I also haven't check its temp since buttoning it up again. Maybe when it starts warming up again (next summer) I'll check on it.
     
  11. Jan 1, 2007 #411 of 500
    ThreeSoFar

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    Samsung SATA drives at newegg.com are just $149 shipped. oh wait--free shipping deal is over. $6 or so for shipping, maybe less.
     
  12. Jan 1, 2007 #412 of 500
    brossow

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    Did you see my temp report in the other thread? Don't remember exact temps but they were well below the max operating temp of 140ºF. That's with no case mods, either, so I'm leaving it as is.
     
  13. Jan 1, 2007 #413 of 500
    greg_burns

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    These WD 500 drives run much cooler than the WD 400s I have. Who woulda thunk it.
     
  14. Jan 1, 2007 #414 of 500
    ashu

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    Isn't that kinda expected, though ... as technology advances? :)

    Do you know how many platters each of 'em have? And sides? Maybe the 500s are newer and have greater data density - requiring less movement/moving parts and reducing the heat generated!
     
  15. Jan 1, 2007 #415 of 500
    aaronwt

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    The 500GB drive has four 125GB platters. The 400GB drive has four 100GB platters.
     
  16. Jan 5, 2007 #416 of 500
    c3

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    jlib

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    Nice!
    • CinemaStar 7K1000 - DVR applications
    • Adaptive error recovery and SMART command transport for optimized video streaming and picture quality
    • Smooth Stream Technology to optimize the drive for audio/video applications requiring reliable storage
    • "Bedroom quiet" acoustics
    • The CinemaStar 1TB hard drive will be available in the second quarter
     
  18. Jan 5, 2007 #418 of 500
    pan4life

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    I wonder if the Deskstar model will support acoustic management to tune it quiet as well. That would be a nice alternative if it is significantly cheaper.
     
  19. Jan 5, 2007 #419 of 500
    aaronwt

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    WOW! Each platter is 200GB!
     
  20. Jan 5, 2007 #420 of 500
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