Series 3 Upgrade

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  1. Oct 4, 2006 #241 of 500
    davidwsica

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    Now I just need to decide do I wait for the Seagate DB35 drives or go with the existing Seagate 750GB. Seems like there's some noise and heat concerns with the current 750GB drive so I'm unsure if I should wait. I can't wait too long, I've already got almost 20 hours of HD (getting close to that limit of 32)!
     
  2. Oct 4, 2006 #242 of 500
    HomeUser

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    I went with the 750GB Seagate the seek noise is very noticeable in the TiVo, I am thinking about trying an acoustic damping pad under the HD because the the mounting bracket is shaped like a sound box. I ran SpinRite on the new drive for two days and did not notice the noise until it was mounted in the TiVo.
     
  3. Oct 4, 2006 #243 of 500
    sysdude

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    So, another Tech came out today, and had to ask for the one "working" card to be "hit" again so it would receive HBO, etc. Nice and easy.

    He packed up and started to leave, then I had to ask about the second card. "oh you're getting a second card?".

    Yes... I told him. Anyway as it turns out the second card was a "new" card, not yet provisioned for use by RCN, (this was figured out after about 15 minutes of trying to get the card to work). So it required what I'm guessing was a firmware upgrade (took about 45 minutes to an hour). Then I got the basic channels, HD local channels, but not HBO and the like.

    I called RCN and asked them to hit the cable card (after giving them the cable card #) and then I got 2 of the error messages which indicate the lack of response from the cable cards when tivo has tried to access them (can't remember the error number). Anyway, then both of them started to work.

    What a long road this has been ... but hopefully everything will still be working by the time I get home tonight...
     
  4. Oct 5, 2006 #244 of 500
    davidwsica

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    Well maybe I won't wait for the DB35. A reply I just got from Seagate says:

    Hello David,

    The DB35, 750GB drives won't be available until the end of this calendar
    year. Please check back with our press releases regarding these drives.

    Regards,

    Jimmy P.
    Disc Presales

    David
     
  5. Oct 5, 2006 #245 of 500
    danlist

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    I bought the Weaknees 750GB upgrade kit, which uses the Seagate 750GB 7200.10 HD. It is very, very noisy. I can hear seek noise clearly from across the room, even with the TV on. I complained to Weaknees about this and they offered to exchange it for a new, quieter 750GB Seagate drive which they'll have available in 5-7 weeks.

    Unless you're running your S3 in a very noisy room, I'd recommend waiting for the DB35.
     
  6. Oct 5, 2006 #246 of 500
    c3

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    Do people realize that the Seagate 750GB drive is sold for around $300 retail? That's more than $300 profit for a few minutes of running mfsrestore!!!
     
  7. Oct 5, 2006 #247 of 500
    RichB

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    I know. You can buy instant cake for series 3 for $20 if you want to upgrade the easy way.

    - Rich
     
  8. Oct 6, 2006 #248 of 500
    davidwsica

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    Well I took the plunge today and bought the Seagate 750GB drive from Outpost for $309. I used the bumwine instructions without a problem. Took about 2 hours to complete. I didn't have a PC around so I bought one from Walmart down the street with SATA connections. Apparently, I can return it within 15 days with NO restocking fee even opened.

    The drive is definitely louder but I think I can live with it for now since I now have up to 98 hours HD, finally some breathing room! If it becomes a problem I might just replace it with a DB35 model when they come out depending on their price point. Anyway, this should hold me for a couple of months until eSATA is enabled!

    David
     
  9. Oct 6, 2006 #249 of 500
    ehardman

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    I have purchased a WD 500gb drive to upgrade my Series 3. This will be my first attempt at doing this as I have just purchased kits from Weakness in the past.

    I obtained a copy of the virgin series 3 image but I am confused as how to load it on the new drive. All of the information I can find explains how to do this using the old and new hard drives.

    I really don't care about transferring the programming and wishlists over from the old drive. I just want to get the new drive up and running. My computer has eSata controller, a CD ROM drive and a DVD/RW drive.

    I copied the image files on to a DVD. I made and tested both a bootable MFS tools disk and also a bootable Knoppix disk. I think I have what I need but I am confused about how to get the data from the DVD to the new hard drive.

    Any help will be sincerely appreciated.
     
  10. Oct 6, 2006 #250 of 500
    c3

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    Has anyone upgraded S3 with an image from another unit? Is it the same S2, that you run "clear and delete everything" to accept the drive?
     
  11. Oct 7, 2006 #251 of 500
    pan4life

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    To those that did the Bumwine instructions, how long did it take and is it affected by how much stuff is on your drive? I'm running the DD using 2 SATA-IDE adapters and it ran about 8 hours all night and looks like it's only transferred 50GB so far. I would say the drive was 50% used so if this is normal fine but it says the speed is about 1MB/sec, is something wrong here? Thanks.
     
  12. Oct 7, 2006 #252 of 500
    MichaelK

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    seams VERY slow but those adapters might slow stuff down.

    Mine copied over in I think 2-3 hours. I seem to recall 30MB/sec...
     
  13. Oct 7, 2006 #253 of 500
    pan4life

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    Would the length be affected by how much stuff is on the drive? If you got 30MB and I'm getting 1MB something is definately seriously wrong....as it stands now it'd take me several days.
     
  14. Oct 7, 2006 #254 of 500
    davidwsica

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    I had about 20 hours of HD, so maybe 2/3 full and it took about 2 hours. Of course, I didn't use the adapters, I had SATA I connections, SATA II probably would have been even faster.
     
  15. Oct 7, 2006 #255 of 500
    Canoehead

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    I just did the Bumwine upgrade to the Seagate 750 - everything seemed to go smoothly, put the case back on, plugged it in and absolutely nothing. No lights, fan doesn't spin, no humming - just dead! Is there some sort of breaker I could have tripped? Everything seemed to go very smoothly - no dropped screws or anything - just dead!

    Update: Spoke with TiVo - they could not really offer any solutions - so I exchanged at my local CircuitCity (within the 30 day window). Of course, the dd's drive caused an error 51 in the new machine - so I had to do a full erase. Glad I watched most of my key saved episodes last night. Also glad that all this happened within the 30 day period.
     
  16. Oct 7, 2006 #256 of 500
    pan4life

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    I quit my copy and tried again on another system that had SATA it went fine.....but the 750GB Seagate drive is too noisy. I heard others comments but I had to see for myself because I want to be able to keep a bunch of HD movies on the drive, but it really is loud. It's much louder than the Seagate 300GB drive that's next to it in my series 2. Seeing as how this was a DD of an existing drive and I'm way past the guided setup is there any chance it's gonna get any quieter, I don't know if it would be indexing anything at this point. I think I'm gonna have to drop back down to a 500GB of another mfg where I can tune the acoustics. I don't even really need silent but my wife sometimes uses the livingroom for work and I know the noise will bother her.
     
  17. Oct 9, 2006 #257 of 500
    Tokapeba

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    My title says it all. What is a dd copy?

    Andy.

     
  18. Oct 9, 2006 #258 of 500
    sysdude

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    un*x command which can basically do a very low level copy of one drive to another. VERY slow though.. :)
     
  19. Oct 9, 2006 #259 of 500
    Canoehead

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    Mine took 4,623 seconds for - not too bad for a 250gb HDD. I thought it would be over 2 hours.
     
  20. Oct 9, 2006 #260 of 500
    RichB

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    Thank god it did not take 1 hour, 17 Minutes, and 3 seconds. Wait a minute. It did :p

    - Rich
     

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