series 3 dead - whats the best option?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by rmackay, May 26, 2009.

  1. rmackay

    rmackay New Member

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    In this case, the WD diagnostics can't even see the drive. As far as I know, I have it emulating IDE in the bios but it still can't see it.
     
  2. bkdtv

    bkdtv New Member

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    Use the Windows version. Many people have reported the same problem with the DOS boot version.
     
  3. rmackay

    rmackay New Member

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    i was using the windows version. the bootable .iso image managed to locate the drive but gave an ERROR 209, which means : SMART Self Test failed to start when executed. The drive has not responded to the SMART test request. The drive has failed and must be replaced.

    That's always nice to see.
     
  4. MichaelK

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    spinrite is much more complex. Overkill in many cases but rather neat in others.

    It will read every single bit on the drive, then write the opposite bit, read it, and write and check the correct bit again. If it finds any faulty bits it marks the sector out of service and allocates one of the spare sectors.

    if it can't read a particular bit, it tries like 100 times moving the heads in at all different angles to try and figure out what the bit is supposed to read- then it see's what it comes up with the most and makes a guess- and recreates the data on one of the spare sectors again. It's really cool when you have real data you want to restore. Depends on how important the shows on the tivo are- but generally for a tivo I'd just get instant cake and start over. (even when it works it can literally take DAYS to do all the analyzing on a bad drive.)

    But if it's your laptop or desktop that someone forgot to backup then I reach for spinrite.

    in the OP's case not sure if spinrite would even see the drive though- seems like it might be something beyond the physical disks being bad.
     
  5. rmackay

    rmackay New Member

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    Installed a new 1TB drive this morning. Just about completed the guided setup. Sure, shows are gone but they are just TV shows. Most of them I can get from Amazon on Demand or through my xbox.

    Not sure if I will have to get the cablecards reactivated. We'll see.
     
  6. MickeS

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    You might want to run a program called Partition Magic on the bad HD. If it's a partition problem, it might take care of it (worked for me on 2 drives).
     
  7. ArcticGabe

    ArcticGabe TiVo is my friend

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    I bought Spinrite when my 1st TiVo coughed and sputtered and quit. Then, when the hard drive in my 2nd TiVo started doing the same, Spinrite saved my bacon again. The second unit is still running on the original hard drive 4 years after Spinrite fixed it.

    What I like best is that it recovers YOUR ORIGINAL setup, you don't have to mess with having your CableCards paired again, or setting up your Season Passes again, etc.

    Simply put, if the hard drive is recoverable, Spinrite will fix it. You won't need to guess which program to download or buy. It is a great tool to have on hand in case your computer or iPod crashes, too (anything with a spinning disk).
     
  8. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    yep. I should have added that the welcome screen comes from the mainboard in the TiVo - if the Tivo hangs on that screen then it means the drive has failed before anything can be read off of it.

    It always is just worth a try to copy at least if there are shows you want
     
  9. cdeckert219

    cdeckert219 technogeek

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    +1 :up: I'm a Spinrite fan, too. Bought it a couple years ago and it has paid for itself in rescued data.
     
  10. MichaelK

    MichaelK Active Member

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    not to digress-

    I own spinrite too - actually but it to bail my butt years ago with a laptop that i HAD to recover- and i DO LOVE it- but really at this point with how cheap extra drives are and even offsite backup services I just dont see the need for it. You can even get piles of free "cloud" storage. Spinrite can literally take days to run and fix a drive- in most cases you could have just restored a backup and moved on way before spinrite gets done.

    The only data that exists in my world that doesn't have several backups someplace are programs on the tivo. And it's just tivo- if the drive dies at this point to me it's easier just to get a fresh drive and instant cake.

    But if the tv programs are important then by all means use spinright and if it's just bad sectors it will fix it.

    (the op's drive sounds like maybe worse than bad sectors- like the controller board MIGHT have something bad since nothing was recognizing it- in that case spinrite is no help at all)
     
  11. pilotbob

    pilotbob New Member

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    It must be nice there. You have those candy cane trees and cotton candy mountains. But the rest of us live in the real world where the average joe can't spell backup and doesn't know the difference between SATA and eSata.

    Also, I don't think there is a Mozy for TiVo yet.

    BOb
     
  12. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    So these clueless people should buy spinrite instead? I am not getting your point here.
     
  13. rmackay

    rmackay New Member

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    To sum up, new 1TB drive + instantcake = fixed S3... yes, some shows were lost but nearly all of them can be d'loaded from Amazon if I REALLY want to watch them.
     
  14. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    :up:
     
  15. poppagene

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    Some people have been able to repair their hard drives long enough to recover important files, by storing the hard drive overnight in their freezer (wrapping the drive to prevent ice formation).
     
  16. Ramma2

    Ramma2 UnRegistered User

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    Hey just came home to a Series 3 that locks up on boot... either at the welcoming screen or at a blank grey screen with 4 lights on the front. I'm hoping its a bad drive so I can fix it, but I was wondering what your symptoms were when your S3 died?
     

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