"Senior vs. Junior: American Chopper" (spoilers)

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    Frylock

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    The design did reek of Jason Poole's not so great design skills...
     
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    That's a nice way of putting it. ;)


    This is why Jr would always sit with him and design something...
     
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    Frylock

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    I think his problem is that without Jr, there's no one to reign him in. He has total control, which is scary. He just doesn't have the experience to know when to back off...
     
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    snowjay

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    I think you are exactly right, yet Sr. always thought Jr. was wasting time working with him. You know if your not out on the floor wrenching you're not working.
     
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    Well by this standard, Sr. does and has always done the least amount of work of any of them.

    Seriously, he may have got to the shop early, but I bet all he ever did was sit around and drank coffee and yell at people.
     
  6. EvilMidniteBombr

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    I really liked the Jared Allen bike. I think it is the best military themed bike that has been on the show. Hands down. Mostly because of the simplicity. It had that WWII feel to it.

    So, it appears that Jr. got the ruling that he was looking for. It also appears that Sr may be considering dropping the suit or at least making a reasonable offer on Jr.'s 20% share. Also, it was good to see Sr. going to Mikey's studio. I wonder if he was genuine in his thoughts and comments on the art. Though, he might have mended a bridge or two if he'd bought the "Remember When Daddy Loved Us?" painting.

    BTW, I am really looking forward to seeing the Pontiac bikes finished and with their respective cars. Not to mention that the 2011 Hearst Edition Trans Am Firebird looks BAD ASS!!!
     
  7. IJustLikeTivo

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    I'm waiting for GM to sue that company for trademark infringement by using all the Trans Am stuff.

    I think the Sr stuff at Mikey's studio was fake. It affected me but I doubt he really cares.

    Glad to see that Sr didn't get away with trying to steal juniors part of the company. Amusing how both he and his lawyer refused to say they lost. What a tool.

    As for the three bikes.... How hard is it to build three, nearly identical bikes? I also find it amusing that they one have shots of Senior "working" in the shop. I guess they're trying to rehab his image.
     
  8. Frylock

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    That was not the final outcome though. Sr. appealed the decision, and then they have settled out of court. So I am sure there was some value greater than 0, but less than what Paulie wanted. I am curious what the final value was.
     
  9. IJustLikeTivo

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    I based my comments on the show. However, the final outcome of the court case is what they showed, no? Paul won the appeal. The court told Sr he couldn't force the sale at the $0 valuation as he tried to get and that forced Sr to the table where they agreed on a number.

    In doing some research, it appears that the appellate judges said that in this case, the sales contract was too vague in how the value was determined to be enforceable. If the contract had a specific method of valuation or a stipulated value, it might have been considered binding. Since, in this case, the contract said it was an agreement to agree and they couldn't, it was not enforceable. After that, it appears that they negotiated a settlement before their next meeting with the judge and the case is not disposed.
     
  10. Frylock

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    I understand the comments based on the show. But as you said, yes, the FINAL outcome of the lawsuit has changed from this episode of the show. I wonder what happened with the Joe lawsuit. I hope they threw that out. That was garbage.
     
  11. IJustLikeTivo

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    Not to pick, but I don't think the outcome of the suit changed at all. Sr lost after the appeal. If he appealed that decision, it ended with their settlement. So the last court decision was Jr's appeal begin upheld.
     
  12. snowjay

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    I think the T/A and GTO bikes will look good, although not sure I like how they are all pretty much the same just with different accents. The CrankyApe bike looks wild. I can't wait to see that painted.
     
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    This may sound crazy, but if I was marketing the new Trans Ams and one of them was the Smokey and Bandit theme, I am not sold on the tie in to a motorcycle. My marketing plan would be to buy a transfer truck and trailer and a police car and "remake" the cars from the movie and ride up the road. Not a motorcycle.
     
  14. windracer

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    I don't think the Bandit TransAm was part of their new marketing push. It just happened to be in the shop when they were giving Sr. the tour.
     
  15. EvilMidniteBombr

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    I don't know about that. The drawing that Sr had that he showed to Mike and Rick looked a whole lot like a modern version of the T/A that was used in the Smokey & The Bandit movies.

    I don't think they are specifically trying to tie the new car to the movie. But that black and gold Firebird is iconic.
     
  16. ahartman

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    Bleh to this weeks show. TheOCC crew heads to Alaska for a vacation. We get about 15 minutes of actual bike time and it's another mediocre bike.

    Junior was nowhere to be found in this episode except for Sr saying Mikey and Jr couldn't handle the stuff the OCC guys were doing because they are sissies.

    At this point I'd rather see a show that's just Jr building bikes and dump Sr altogether.
     
  17. Gerryex

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    100% AGREE!!! Worst episode ever. I really enjoy all the stuff about JR and his business and almost hate the stuff about SR!

    Way, way back when JR first got fired by SR, weren't there a few episodes where they at least got together to talk and I think I remember them deciding that it was best they they go their own ways. And I even remember SR wishing JR well in his business. When did it get so sour that EVERYTHING out of SR's mouth is an insult to JR and his work and ultimatly all the law suits.

    Gerry
     
  18. Frylock

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    This episode was just American Chopper and Deadliest Catch patting each other on the back. Next week is very interesting. I wish they would do more 'head-to-head' bikes to see how different they come out. I am sure Paulie's designs will be better.
     
  19. Frylock

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    Though I did catch that when they flew into Homer, AK, they flew on Era Airlines, from the OTHER discover show, 'Flying Wild Alaska'.
     
  20. bubba1972

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    I think I watched this episode in about 10 minutes. I figured he would complain that the crab sissy bar looked like one of Paul Jr's spider bikes.
     

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