SDV Tuning Adapter-Time Warner

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by jsshattuck, Oct 17, 2008.

  1. Jan 2, 2009 #341 of 759
    c615586

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    Wow--who did you talk to to get this deal? The CSR I spoke with literally had no idea what I was talking about.
     
  2. Jan 3, 2009 #342 of 759
    lrhorer

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    Forcing Basic Cable subs to lease STBs would probably bring the FCC (not to mention money hungry lawyers looking for a good, solid class action suit) down on an MSO like a ton of bricks. Few, if any local franchise authorities would approve such a cost hike, and sans their approval, litigation an fines are not far behind. No, if they want to keep their shirts, any such campaign would have to deliver the STBs free of charge. Even if they could get away with upping the costs of basic cable, they would be compelled to deliver something on the order of 1.5 - 2 STBs to each and every subscriber essentially overnight - a more than herculean task. Finally, far from "loving" it, most MSOs make little or nothing on STB rentals. It's a near break-even proposition, even sometimes a loss-leader, for an MSO to provide an STB to a subscriber. The real money is revenues generated by the STB: Premium Channels, VOD, and IPPV. Basic subscribers transitioned to some number of STBs are not the most likely candidates for purchasing premium services.

    No, I'm not. SDV has been around - albeit not widely deployed - since the days of the S1.

    Not so much. Early design on the S3 began in late 2004 and early 2005. We developed the elements of SDV starting in the 1990s.

    Not so much. 'Not compared with the length of time SDV protocols have been around.

    True. I never said otherwise. Indeed, if you will look through my posts, you'll see I've made that point many, many times over the last 3 or 4 years. It's not what you said in your previous post, however. The statements, "No published standard for bidirectional hosts existed at the time", and, "SDV did not exist at the time", are two very different things indeed. The difference is the very reason we are in the mess in which we find ourselves at this time.
     
  3. Jan 3, 2009 #343 of 759
    lrhorer

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    That's no deal. Unless other markets are using something different (possible, as some hardware and software decisions are discretionary at the local franchise level), the DVR provided by TWC is the Scientific Atlanta 8300HDC with SARA software. It's a piece of $@%! The worst 9 months of my TV viewing experience were hands-down having to fight with that electronic offal. It was a painful and aggravating experience. I'd rather hit myself in the head with a hammer than deal with that hunk of junk another six months.

    I'll live with the missing stations until the TA comes along.
     
  4. Jan 3, 2009 #344 of 759
    berkshires

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    Just reposting because I realized upon more careful reading the email was not specific to my area.
     
  5. Jan 3, 2009 #345 of 759
    shaun-ohio

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    well there hd dvr is better than nothing, at least i get all the channels and able to record them, with np here with there dvr, and its free for 6 months, and to answer others questions, it is for timewarner mid ohio location, so different locations, may have different offers, by the way the number is 1-800-617-4311.
     
  6. Jan 3, 2009 #346 of 759
    szurlo

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    Noooooo kidding. I went from DirecTV with a DirecTivo to TWC and an 8300HD. I was absolutely flabbergasted. The 8300HD is remarkably horrible. I don't know how else to describe it. Comparing that POS to a Tivo would be like comparing a Sopwith Camel to an FA/18. I like to refer to it as the "Playskool My First DVR". I made the mistake of airing my grievances with that device over at another forum and was thoroughly flamed by the fan-boys there. The fact that there can even BE 8300 fan-boys is in and of itself a sad commentary on the modern consumer. The trend of "rush it to market incomplete and (maybe) fix it later" has been going on for so long now that I think we are cultivating whole new generations of consumers that have very low expectations. In that environment even the 8300HD can have a fan base. Obviously the Tivo has issues as well, but I'm referring more to feature sets and design quality here. In the other forum one fan-boys response to 8300HD dearth of features was in effect "they said it will record shows, and it does. That's all you can ask for". Wow. Of course most of these people have never seen a Tivo in action, which IMHO is partly because Tivo does a poor job of marketing it's products, but that's a topic for a whole other thread.
    Anyway, sorry for the off-topic rant. Now back to your normal programming ;)
     
  7. Jan 3, 2009 #347 of 759
    c615586

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    Thanks for the info.
     
  8. Jan 3, 2009 #348 of 759
    Mindflux

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    Anyone having problems today in Austin? I can't tune anything switched. Says the channel is unavailable and to try later. T.A diagnostics show everything is fine.
     
  9. Jan 4, 2009 #349 of 759
    Mindflux

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    Still getting this today even after restarting the T.A.
     
  10. Jan 4, 2009 #350 of 759
    SCSIRAID

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    Question... If you have a tuning adapter attached to your TiVo and the TA isnt properly authorized or otherwise not working properly.... can you access non switched channels OK?

    Im wondering if the TA is only used if the cablecard channel map doesnt have the requested channel info or if the TA map supercedes the cable card map.

    Hopefully, we will be seeing TA's this month here in Raleigh.
     
  11. Jan 4, 2009 #351 of 759
    wtherrell

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    Amen to that! The SA TWC DVR is really a POS and the software is nowhere near what Tivo has. That's what got me into Tivo to start with. Now I have 3. Heck I would get more but my eyes are bloodshot from trying to watch it all!
     
  12. Jan 4, 2009 #352 of 759
    GBK33

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    for those of you that have a tuning adapter...did you have to have a Time Warner Tech come to your house to set it up or could you pick it up and plug it in yourself? I'm in Columbus, Oh and need 2 Tuning adapters - and am getting tired of waiting.
     
  13. Jan 4, 2009 #353 of 759
    Mindflux

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    Local pickup.
     
  14. Jan 5, 2009 #354 of 759
    cableguy763

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    The cablecard handles all the channel maps and authorizations.
     
  15. Jan 5, 2009 #355 of 759
    SCSIRAID

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    OK... So if the TA is 'acting up' I will still be able to tune non-SDV channels... right?

    Thanks,
     
  16. Jan 5, 2009 #356 of 759
    Mindflux

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    In theory, yes. But I've had my T.A 'act up' and been able to tune precisely *nothing*. The pass through quits working when it's having a fit.
     
  17. Jan 5, 2009 #357 of 759
    gamo62

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    Anyone in Cincinnati had any luck getting the T.A.? If so, what was/is your secret?
     
  18. Jan 5, 2009 #358 of 759
    berkshires

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    Does the TA have anything to do with Authorization at all? Isn't it just a two-way communication device for the unit/cableCARDs to use?
     
  19. Jan 5, 2009 #359 of 759
    Austin_Martin

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    In the past two weeks I've lost many recordings with "channel not available" greyscreens, on one of my tivos. It seems as if the cable companies don't have any consideration for quality of service.

    The other one had a cablecard go bad, which I think might need a truckroll to fix.

    I'm considering cancelling all cable after all the truck rolls/calls/etc. It starts to wear on you after a while.
     
  20. Jan 5, 2009 #360 of 759
    jmfirestone

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    Seriously!? That's great news. I am in Greensboro too, though I didn't get that email.
     

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