SDV Adapter Progress

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by britdiver, Apr 14, 2008.

  1. lessd

    lessd Well-Known Member

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    The guided setup in 9.4 does ask if you have a tuner adapter like it asks if you have cable cards (if you don't) and now asks if you going to get cable cards in the near future as it will bring in the digital guide data before the cards are installed...I don't know if that means you will not have to re-run guided setup after you install the cable card(s),
     
  2. MichaelK

    MichaelK Active Member

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    thats pretty slick (about asking if cards on the way)-

    sounds like at least it starts downloading and indexing the digital cable channels too...
     
  3. lreinstein

    lreinstein Member

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    hi

    i am also a frustrated twc/tivo user. do you have any idea when the sdv adapter will be made available and by what means we will be notified?

    thanks

    larry
     
  4. dpratt

    dpratt New Member

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    How do I get in this beta? Seriously, I'll do pretty much anything to get my hands on a tuning adapter, and Tivo/TWC can be damn sure that I'll overflow their inboxes with beta reports.
     
  5. KariInWonderland

    KariInWonderland New Member

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    Ditto! These tuners need to start getting out there before the complete conversion in Feb!
     
  6. cableguy763

    cableguy763 New Member

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    If you have cable you do not need to worry about the Feb. conversion. The resolvers are necessary for people with cable co's that are implementing SDV.
     
  7. jrm01

    jrm01 New Member

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    The Feb convesion only affects OTA antenna users, even in Wonderland.:)
     
  8. lrhorer

    lrhorer Active Member

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    ...And doesn't affect anyone with a Series III class TiVo, period, except some OTA channels might change channel numbers.
     
  9. lrhorer

    lrhorer Active Member

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    One would hope before the next millennium, and check the horizon for smoke signals.

    Both Cisco and Motorola TAs have passed CableLabs certification, as well as the TiVo. Beta programs either have started or will be starting in the next few weeks in a number of markets for various MSOs. What the manufacturing and rollout schedule is going to be for any given market is anybody's guess. I wouldn't be surprised if it is year's end before the units are generally available in some markets, and I will be surprised if any officially hit he shelves in any market before October.

    Patience.
     
  10. k2ue

    k2ue Retired RF Engineer

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    I just received a letter today from Time Warner Rochester, NY that was very similar to other letters published here -- it rather looks like there is a corporate template. The specifics here are that they converting 12 more non-HD channels to SDV in a month, and they will be unavailable to CableCard customers, HOWEVER there will be NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE Tuning Adapters later this year (no date specified) for TiVo Series 3 and TiVo HD (mentioned by name). All new HD channels in the Rochester system have been SDV since the end of 2006.
     
  11. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Yes and some may move to VHF frequency range depending on which market you are in which may cause some reception issues depending on the antenna in use.
     
  12. KariInWonderland

    KariInWonderland New Member

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    Ah, well here in Wonderland they're switching to SDV also, which does not make me happy! I've already lost quite a few channels that I liked and the cable company doesn't seem to care.
     
  13. Bing3000

    Bing3000 New Member

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    Got a form letter from Time Warner today indicating some standard def digital channels are moving to SDV starting Sept. 4.

    The interesting part is after the "you need digital-cable equipment with two way capabilities..."

    "In addition, in the future we expect that devices for purchase at retail will enable access to the two-way services that we provide."

    Now later in the letter it does say
    "If you would like to obtain equipment from Time Warner Cable that provides access to two-way services, we offer many attractive pricing plans that include such devices..."
    I think they are saying they will rent you what is required for SDV (cable box or TWdvr), or us TiVo HDers will have to run to Best Buy when the dongle is available.

    I did just call TW to ding my digital movie package (Encore, etc.) because 4 of the Encore channels were moving to SDV. The rep had no knowledge of an adapter (as expected).

    So it goes-
     
  14. mbhuff

    mbhuff New Member

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    No, what some cable providers are saying is that "tru2way" will be available. The tuning adapters won't be sold to the public. Neither SA nor Motorola will sell the devices to the public.

    Since their is no mandate from the FCC for the tuning adapter, some cable providers may decide to not suport the tuning adapter at all. They will be happy to lease you their DVR or tell you to wait for tru2way.

    BTW, if you think tru2way is the answer, then you might want to read up on it. It isn't a protocol like the SDV tuning adapter is using, rather your TV or other device will download the entire OS from the cable company and they will control the UI. TiVO has announced they are working on a tru2way sandbox so you will be able to download a special version of the cable companies OS as a sub-menu on the next generation of TiVO. However, neither cablelabs nor the cable companies have announced support for that. If they don't, then either you will have to run the full cable companies OS in that sandbox or it won't work at all.

    I'm sure we will see some cable providers roll out the tuning adapter in some locations this year, but I'd be willing to bet that if you just considered the major providers (comcast, charter, TW) that they won't have it available in all areas that have SDV even by Jan 2010.
     
  15. jrm01

    jrm01 New Member

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    The wording in the letter is what is confusing. When they say that:

    They are not saying that you will be able to buy the adaptor at retail, they are saying that "devices for purchase at retail" (i.e. Tivo, TVs, etc.) will enable the access.
     
  16. joedandrea

    joedandrea TiVo Enthusiast

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    I'm right there with you, a few counties over. "Bleah!"
     
  17. JacksTiVo

    JacksTiVo TiVo User since 2001

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    I received a letter from the FCC yesterday, assigning a "User Complaint Number" to the complaint I filed on March 17, 2008 about Cablevision discriminating against CableCard users by moving channels to SDV. Our taxes at work, only 5 months to assign a complaint number, not to respond to my complaint.

    As I have posted elsewhere, I had FiOS installed in the beginning of May and now could care less what Cablevision plans to do about SDV. Good luck to those of you who have no choice but to stay with your cable provider.
     
  18. JacksTiVo

    JacksTiVo TiVo User since 2001

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    As I stated above the FCC finally got around to assigning a complaint file number to my case. Yesterday, I received a call from Cablevision stating they received my complaint from the FCC but also note that I had canceled my service as of May 7. Therefore as far as Cablevision is concerned the case is closed.

    In other words, they will be able to state to the FCC that the complaint was resolved. What will be missing in their reply to the FCC is that the resolution to my issue with Cablevision's transition to SDV was for me to become a Verizon FiOS customer, not something they did to fix the problem. That is, the remaining TiVo S3 or HD customers will not benefit from my complaint since Cablevision just swept it away without acknowledging to the FCC that the SDV and CableCard issue is still outstanding.

    Thank goodness I had an alternative, but unfortunately others do not.
     
  19. Scopeman

    Scopeman 2 x Basic Roamio

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    Sorry, I did not ignore this request - I've been offline for a while.

    The process was:
    1. Phone call to local TWC was escalated to central tech support office for CableCard customers (I called to complain about SDV) - June 08
    2. TWC central tech support office for CableCard customers called me back, offered me free TWC HD DVR - July 08
    3. TWC central tech support office for CableCard customers called me back a second time, a month later, and asked if they could send my name to Tivo as a possible beta tester (as beta of 9.4 was required for testing adapter). They also spoke to my local TWC office about getting the hardware - end of July 08

    The events that follow are something I'll be able to post details on in about 45 days.
     
  20. MichaelK

    MichaelK Active Member

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    you big tease!

    glad to hear you will have somethign to tell us in 45 days.

    that's great news.
     

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