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  1. InspectorGadget

    InspectorGadget TiVo Changed My Life

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    Thanks for your thoughtful and intelligent response.

    Yes, you're right, I was only responding about the S1 machines because that's all I have and know. I see what you mean now about DTV keeping things turned off. I've been feeling pretty left out with only S1 machines, if you haven't been able to tell. I may get an old Series 2 DTiVo, hack it to turn on those features, and just shoulder the additional service fees.

    Which series DTiVo do you have? How did you select whether to install the last update?
     
  2. Jonathan_S

    Jonathan_S Well-Known Member

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    Well, I do have an old Sony series 1, but it isn't active at the moment. Right now I'm using a pair of Series 2 DTiVos.

    I didn't specifically have to choose whether to install the last update because the hack utility I used to enable multi-room viewing automatically disables software updates.
    (It's safer that way, since a software update may interact unpredictable with some of the hacks. It's safter to wait until the interaction has been tested out by the hacking community before upgrading the software and re-hacking the box. Or you can just leave it running the old software :))

    I used the popular zipper program to hack the DTiVos.
     
  3. InspectorGadget

    InspectorGadget TiVo Changed My Life

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    Yes, I've seen "the zipper." Nice approach to upgrades; that was what I intended to do on the S1 platform. Do you like the Hughes SD-DVR40 in comparison to the SAT-T60? Would you recommend that upgrade path in retrospect?

    Oh, and does on-screen PPV ordering still work with the upgrades-turned-off mechanism that you use?
     
  4. Jonathan_S

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    When I initially made the transition I didn't like the Hughes remote, but unfortunately Sony never made a Series 2 DTiVo, so whatever box I got would have the TiVo peanut remote.

    However, I've gotten used to it and now the remote doesn't bother me.

    Aside from that, they're both TiVos, so the user interface is pretty similar. And all the Series 2 DTiVos use the same remote and have the same interface. The only one to be wary of is the R10; which has extra restrictions which requires hardware modification to hack. (But aside from that hacking limit is otherwise identical the the rest of the series 2 DTiVos)


    I do miss the series 1 ability to sort the now-playing list by expiration date (using the SORT code).
    But the series 2 grouping feature really helps organize Now Playing. And the multi-room viewing is very convenient after I moved into a bigger place with more than 1 TV.

    I don't know, I've never ordered PPV.
     
  5. InspectorGadget

    InspectorGadget TiVo Changed My Life

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    Thanks for your perspective; it is very helpful.

    Can't you just sort it to your preference in TivoWebPlus? Yeah, it's not like having it right on-screen, but it can help with housekeeping a lot.

    The perennial problem: The better the hacker, the less likely he is to use PPV. I fear that the Zipper uses the same approach as DVR Playground -- Don't Phone Home.

    I'll try the other hacks before I give up on this on the S1, but your comments sound hopeful for the S2's. I'll remember to avoid the R10.
     
  6. mattack

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    Workaround:
    1) turn off groups
    2) sort by date
    3) go to the end (-> key)
    4) page UP to the first non-green item

    Sounds hokey, but it's how I figure out if something has been deleted or not when I have 0 suggestions & 0 recently deleted items.

    (I realize I can't actually DO anything if there has been a deletion, but it makes me feel good to find out nothing was auto-deleted.)
     
  7. Jonathan_S

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    That kind-of works, (as does the previous suggestion to use tivoweb), but not for how I used to use sort-by-expiration.

    (Which I realize was more or less taking advantage of a side effect, rather than using it to figure out what was likely to be deleted).


    Basically, if you worked a bit, you could turn sort-by-expiration into a semi-custom sort. By manipulating (extending) their expiration date you could cause shows of your choice to be listed together at the top of Now Playing.

    Which could be useful when you've got 80 hours of shows piled up and you're flipping back and forth between 3 or 4 that were recorded months apart. Rather than having to hunt through the list for them, they'd all be together.


    (And admittedly, the grouping ability of the S2 units has made the hunt for shows on a large disk much less annoying, but I still miss the ability to fake 'custom-sort' on the TiVo)
     
  8. Syzygy

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    Because I'm stepping in here for the first time, I must say that I sympathize with InspectorGadget's frustration and, may I say, bitterness.

    The first two sentences in his post contradict each other. Sentence 1 suggests DirecTV doesn't allow TiVo to push 30-second skip activation. Sentence 2 suggests DirecTV does allow it. The second suggestion is correct.

    Here's why I feel compelled to reply: There is in fact something in the SA TiVo that's not in the DirecTiVo -- so there is at least one thing that DirecTV is turning off. That's the "star" ratings taken from Leonard Maltin's annual compendium of movie reviews. I really miss those stars.
     

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