Scared to make the Tivo HD Plunge

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by reborndata, Oct 10, 2007.

  1. reborndata

    reborndata New Member

    Jan 29, 2002


    So I had a S1 DirecTivo long ago and was very happy. But we started having tree-related signal problems a couple of years ago, and when Verizon FIOS TV rolled into town last year I decided to switch. This meant bye-bye to our beloved DirecTivo (but hello to a new HD LCD!).

    We've been using the FIOS HD DVR for a while now, and while awkward and difficult to use, it has been "good enough". Then Verizon rolled out a major "upgrade" to the software last month and we've had no end of problems- bad recordings, hangs / reboots, and a whole new host of usability issues.

    Anyway, it's gotten bad enough that I'm fed up to the point that I'm willing to cough up the money for an HD Tivo. But coming to this forum has really spooked me... the mysterious pixellation problems that appear months after installation really are making me reconsider. Especially given that lots of folks talk about moving TO the verizon dvr to cure their problems (yikes!)

    Does anyone here have a sense of how many FIOS folks are seeing pixellation issues? Is this a small percentage (but enough to collect a lot of problems in a forum like this), or something that most FIOS users see?
  2. Interactive

    Interactive New Member

    Jan 16, 2003
    McKinney, TX
    I have to admit, I shared your concern when I came back into this forum to look up the latest and greatest about the S3 Tivos but decided to take the plunge anyway. While I'm a touch disappointed that the Tivo interface hasn't really been updated much, I'm thrilled by the very basic stability that this box provides. It's reset ONCE for me in the few months I've had it and that's it. Not a single other problem. Sure I had to deal with 2 visits from the cable co tech to make the cards work right, but that's no different from the crap you deal with when they're using their own boxes.

    Bottom line: Tivo works. I now spend my time watching TV (and finding new shows through the great search tools) and less time messing with my source component. <<-- the way it should be.
  3. ic316

    ic316 New Member

    Oct 10, 2007
    I was in the same boat as you. Pretty nervous about the Fios posts, but very unhappy with the Fios DVR.

    I went ahead an took the plunge two weeks ago and have not regretted it one bit. I love having my TIvo back. I have had ZERO pixillation problems. ( I know, it's still early)

    Cable Card installation went perfectly, and took about 30-40 minutes total. I would reccomend learning as much about the CC installation process as possible and basically "managing" the install yourself.

    Anyway, I'm sure there are many other happy FIOS/TivoHD customers out there, but these types of stories don't get as much mileage here.

    hope this helps!
  4. gguillot

    gguillot Member

    Sep 22, 2003
    Just make sure your vendor supports using cablecards in the Tivo. I have had nothing but problems with getting HD to work reliably. My HD shows record successfully about 30% of the time. I have worked extensively with Tivo support and with my own cable vendor (who is a small town cable vendor - not a big shop) nobody has solved the problem.
    When it does work, it is beautiful - well worth the money if you are a Tivo fan. What is interesting is that the problem that folks seem to be having since the 9.1 upgrade is the problem that I have been having since day one.
  5. HDTiVo

    HDTiVo Not so Senior Member

    Nov 27, 2002


    Give the TiVo HD a shot, especially if you can get $6.95 MSD.

    It does often take significant effort to get all the cableCARDs working, but give it a try. Returns are free if you run out of patience first.

    The software will be fixed (and broken again) in the future. Ride it out.
  6. acvthree

    acvthree Active Member

    Jan 17, 2004

    There was a thread started recently where people who DIDN'T have problems with installs were asked to respond. That list got long very quickly. I'm not convinced that the statements that cablecards often (or always, or mostly) take a lot of effort are particularly accurate or backed up by data.

    My Fios / Tivo Series 3 installation, for example, was one of the smoothest I've ever had. That was last December and I've had no problems since then.

  7. EVizzle

    EVizzle ^^MacGvyer^^

    Feb 13, 2005
    St. Paul, MN
    I also was concerned, but I took the plunge and had nothing but perfect video from day one. If you have different results, just plan on a return.
  8. HDTiVo

    HDTiVo Not so Senior Member

    Nov 27, 2002
    Let me add that I bought 2 more TiVo HDs the other day, and I have been through the mill with CC problems.

    One HD is a gift,* so in both cases I certainly would not be buying them if I didn't think problems were survivable.

    * Well the one for me is a "gift" too. Anytime you get a TiVo its a gift. ;) :D
  9. mappler

    mappler Blah

    Jan 15, 2002

    I'm in the same boat as you. I had S1 and S2 DirecTiVos. Switched to FIOS for the HD support and the DVR was decent. (Read: I could live with it). The new FIOS image reminds me of my dishnetwork 7200 dvr. Missed recordings.....ARGH!

    I've decided to purchase a TivoHD.

    The only thing I'm trying to figure out now is if I should wait for the official/semi-official support of the eSATA port on the TivoHD or should I use MFSTools and upgrade support. I haven't found an estimated date for support for that feature yet, and upgraded space will be high on my priority list..;)

  10. reborndata

    reborndata New Member

    Jan 29, 2002
    I'm really not too concerned about the CableCard issue... as others have pointed out, if it goes badly I can just return the Tivo.

    Rather, my worry is about an apparently FIOS-specific pixellation issue that has been the subject of a number of threads here... and apparently can show up months after install. From those threads it wasn't clear to me how common the problem is... I'll go look for the "it's working for me" thread acvthree mentioned.

    About the $6.95 MSD... unfortunately my DirecTivo with Lifetime is long gone. I'm well past the 6 month limit for inactive service. :(
  11. bareyb

    bareyb Under Maintenance TCF Club

    Dec 1, 2000
    Silicon Valley
    I wish TiVo and DirecTV would make a new deal. I'd probably switch back to DirecTV again. The new TiVo HD (I have an S3) are not as trouble free as what you had with the DirecTiVos. They just simply aren't. Most of the blame can probably go to Comcast and the myriad of problems you run into with a hard wired system such as cable. The new update has pretty much screwed up my 30 second skip and Instant Replay. If I had know that before it may have swayed me away from the TiVo box. Now that I'm "in" I guess I can only hope they fix the new problem(s). If the box you are using now, is really bad, the new TiVo HD will probably be an upgrade. It's not gonna (probably) be the same TiVo you have been used to with DirecTivo though. I admit I'm a bit disappointed. It seems like it's one problem after another. They fix it for a little while and then screw it up again with a "new update:". :(

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