Samsung 1TB HD $99+Shipping

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  1. Nov 27, 2008 #81 of 105
    nigebj

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    Well I'm coming to the conclusion that my HD103UI drive must be defective. Got to watch a bunch of playback degradation tonight, even without it being busy doing anything else. Rewind - replay, and no issue. Can't really see this as being anything other than issues with the disk (or memory I guess).

    Already have WD10EVCS on the way, so we'll see if it's the drive or the 'system' RSN.

    BTW: Buy.com have a presence on eBay which I was not aware of until yesterday. As eBay are kind enough to send coupons on a regular basis, and Buy.com no longer do ... this proved useful as the price of the EVCS was 112.50 after 10% off, with free shipping (and being Buy.com it still shipped within 12 hours even with free, budget shipping).
     
  2. Nov 27, 2008 #82 of 105
    ehagberg

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    I've just put an HD103UI in my TivoHD and it booted up fine the first time, with no issues that I've been able to observe. It already had AAM set to "quiet" when it arrived.

    I haven't observed the playback degradation you mention at all yet - though I'll keep an eye out for it. I suppose that one thing to try would be to turn off the AAM so that even though it might be louder, it would be going at top speed all the time.
     
  3. Nov 27, 2008 #83 of 105
    drey

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    guys, would you consider your HD103UI loud?

    In my case it is definitely no more audible than original WD 160GB, but definitely louder than WD "Green Drive". To be specific, I cannot hear WD Green even from 1 foot away, while Samsung can be heard up to 3 feet or so. AAM was turned on to "quiet" for both drives. Just curious, what is your experience?
     
  4. Nov 30, 2008 #84 of 105
    RandallFarr

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    I too have a Samsung HD103UI that just replaced the stock 160. At first I tried WINmfs to copy from the 160 to the 1TB. Everything went off without a hitch, but the result being the dreaded gray screen. I thought I might have missed something, so I made a second attempt using MFSLive boot disk to redo the copy. Same result. Came across this thread and gave a listen to the drive as it was attempting to boot. Sure enough, the drive was still spinning up/calibrating when the screen turned gray. I presume this is the point the TiVo starts looking for a boot device. I gave it a 'quick power cycle', and sure enough it was able to boot up. I used this method three times in a row successfully get my TiVo up and going. For the time being I'm going to let it run like this. Before today, I'm pretty sure it had been up for well over six months, so as long as the ups holds up and there aren't any other anomalies, I'll live with it. I'll keep checking back to see if anyone comes up with a real fix though.
     
  5. Nov 30, 2008 #85 of 105
    drey

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    I think the "gray" screen is result of copy, rather than the drive. It appears those of us who start with a fresh image do not have a problem, but those who copy items over run into issues.

    By the way, I have one extra fully working (i.e. no gray screen) Samsung HD103UI for original S3 or Tivo HD. If anyone is interested, please pm or e-mail me. Price as in the title of the thread, $99 + shipping.
     
  6. Nov 30, 2008 #86 of 105
    retired_guy

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    I've tried about 25 power-on reboots with my HD103UI and had success about 2/3 of the time. In the worse case, it took four tries to get a good boot. Sometimes is hung during the power up sequence but typically gave a gray screen. In my case, I'd backed up the original 160GB drive and restored it to the Samsung. I just installed a UPS system for this TiVo, which also powers the TV, a receiver, a modem, router and clock. The TiVo powered up OK on the first try; don't want to try it again since I'm concerned too many power ups may impact the system in some way but it's one example of an OK power up with a UPS; would be useful information if many others have the same experience.

    To make this issue more complex, yesterday I need to reboot my other HD which has an expander. It failed on the first two hard boots and succeeded on the third. In this case, the expander had been powered up at all times. Opens the possibility that the HD itself has marginal problems on hard boots and that I'm not really seeing a Samsung problem at all.
     
  7. Nov 30, 2008 #87 of 105
    HomieG

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    After reading about the issues with boot-up with the UI model, I ordered the UJ version. About $10 more. Should be here in the next couple of days.
     
  8. Dec 1, 2008 #88 of 105
    nigebj

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    OK WD EVCS replaced the Samsung this morning. No boot problems (as expected). Waiting to see if this resolves the playback issues I was seeing (looked how drive recalibration used to drop frames in the good old days - but only happened when viewing HD, never saw it on SD recordings).

    Still got case resonance - and I agree this WD drive is a close to silent as you're likely to find. So, investigating whether it is the cooling fan which is causing this. Did they put a 5400 rpm cooling fan next to 5400 rpm drives :) Seriously - it's driving me nuts, got to stop it with something better than a book ...
     
  9. Dec 1, 2008 #89 of 105
    nigebj

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    And was delivered Saturday morning by Fedex - even though it was only ordered Wednesday morning ... with Thanksgiving between. Got to love budget delivery.
     
  10. Dec 1, 2008 #90 of 105
    drey

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    nigebj, did you replace your drive in TiVo HD or Tivo S3? What about a soft reboot issue with a drive, in case you have S3?
     
  11. Dec 1, 2008 #91 of 105
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    nigebj,

    Good luck on the EVCS.

    You think its significantly quieter than the Samsung?

    I'm happy with my Samsung, but I need another drive for my NAS and may just pick up an EVCS and put the Samsung in the NAS instead, if the EVCS is quieter.

    Thanks, and sorry about your problems with the Samsung.

    About the vibration, the 1TB drives eithe rhave 3 or 4 platters. The stick THD drive only has 1 platter. I would imagine this would add to the vibration/resonance. Or is the resonance you refer to during seek/writes?
     
  12. Dec 1, 2008 #92 of 105
    buddhawood

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  13. Dec 3, 2008 #93 of 105
    nigebj

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    EVCS is great, very much happier than I was see: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=6886872#post6886872

    As for quietness - WD is definitely quieter.

    Drive is always active, resonance most noticeable when doing just one thing (i.e. when not seeking) - so I believe it is genuine resonance. Not personally convinced of the platter theory, they are all spinning on the same spindle so can't see how this would affect resonance. The stock drive mounts are pretty good, but I think I'm going to try some others - afterall if the drive is the source this has to be where it is coming through. Might be the cooling fan - hard to tell as this is resonance in the case, so when you take the lid off - no resonance!

    Minor issue - but now I'm over the main ones (gray screen and playback pixelation) - I want to knock this one down too!
     
  14. Dec 3, 2008 #94 of 105
    jlib

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    The EVCS he used is universally compatible with both TiVos. The EACS is the one with the mysterious S3 soft reboot problem.
     
  15. Dec 3, 2008 #95 of 105
    drey

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    I have since upgraded my S3 to EVCS and couldn't be happier. Cool, quite and no issues with reboot. Samsung isn't a bad drive, but it was definitely louder than EVCS.
     
  16. Dec 3, 2008 #96 of 105
    nigebj

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    Sorry, missed the other post drey. Love this drive - got to get another now, so I can get a second TivoHD upgraded.
     
  17. Dec 7, 2008 #97 of 105
    BlackBetty

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    finally got around to installing this samsung drive into my TiVoHD. I didn't run any acoustic management, I left the drive as is and I am VERY happy with it. It is whisper quiet. Booted up with no problems and everything looks great. system info shows 157 hours of HD recording space.

    Its only been about 4 hours since I did the upgrade, but so far I am very happy with it. I'll post here if anything changes.
     
  18. Dec 8, 2008 #98 of 105
    HomieG

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    I upgraded my Series 3 on Saturday. With v9.4 is showed 144 Hours of HD. Now with v11.x it's showing the same as you, 157 hours. Wonder why?
     
  19. Dec 8, 2008 #99 of 105
    lessd

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    TiVo did a better job of displaying the HD hours, in version 11 of the software, a 1TB drive had 930MB of record space in both versions, TiVo software (v11) now calculates about 5.92GB per hour of HD record time, that was a better guess than was made in V9.4 of 6.46Gb per hour of HD record time. You did not get any more HD record time with V11 than you had with V9.4
     
  20. nigebj

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    Is this actually the case (that the code is changed, as opposed to this simply being an observation of behavior), or have Tivo 'Supersized' by reducing the space allocated for Showcase ??
     

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