Samsung 1TB HD $99+Shipping

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  1. Nov 16, 2008 #61 of 105
    HerronScott

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    If you are talking about the WD10EVCS, that note shows it as one of the quietest (10 is best or quietest).

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  2. Nov 16, 2008 #62 of 105
    AquaX

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    I just came across this thread. I have the Samsung in question in my THD. Everything with the upgrade went fine, had the grey screen on first boot, didn't think anything of it. I just restarted the TiVo and it came right up. Since then, I've been using the 1TB for nearly a month with no issues, including a power outage we had last week.

    Knock on wood, it's been solid for me, and very quiet. I'm a tiny bit concerned about the grey screen issue, but not enough to do anything about it. The 3 platters of this drive mean it's very quiet, relatively fast, and low power consumption. I have a few of the Hitachi 1TB at work, and they're at least twice as loud, and have 5 platters, which to me mean that there's a greater chance for failure.
     
  3. Nov 16, 2008 #63 of 105
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    I used a USB connection to restore the software to my purchased 1TB drive. The SATA to USB devices, such as the one I bought from Amazon for about $20, come with a power supply with an AC power cable and plug and a cable to provide DC power to the drive. They also have an adapter for the SATA to USB conversion with a cable for each connection. To copy the recordings in addition to the software, you'd have to buy two of these hardware packages; they don't need any special software to support them, other than the WinMFS software. I figure I'll be using the adapter in the future so wasn't bothered by the cost.

    I liked backing up the software to my PC since I now have a copy on my PC of the software which I can restore to any new drive for my "lifetimed" HD should I need to in the future. (I've also got the original drive which I can use for any purpose now).

    If you're planning on attaching the TiVo drives internally, you'll need two sets of cables, assuming you've got a SATA controller in your PC and the power supply in your PC is sufficient for both drives. If you've got a second drive which you're not using for Windows on your PC, you could use that drive's cables, but you'd have to be certain Windows would never need it.
     
  4. Nov 16, 2008 #64 of 105
    BlackBetty

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    Thank you! It sounds like the usb device would be the easiest method, which means I wouldn't have to crack the computer open.

    Could you provide me with a link to the device at amazon.com?

    Thanks again.
     
  5. Nov 16, 2008 #65 of 105
    retired_guy

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    I used the Sabrent SATA-C35U Serial ATA to USB 2.0 Cable Adapter.

    http://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-SATA-...2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1226894454&sr=8-2

    The instructions included are truly awful but it's pretty easy to use. Don't know whether it was necessary, since it's supposed to support "hot plugging", but I powered my PC down, then connected the power line and adapter to the drive and USB port and then powered up my PC. Read the WinMFS directions carefully regarding administrator mode and selecting the devices to use, as well as the supersize option. Be careful to insert the power plug and data plug into the drive properly; there's a notch to help on data plug and you can visually see the contacts to allow proper placement of the power plug.
     
  6. Nov 17, 2008 #66 of 105
    txporter

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    I have always hot-plugged my hard drives in without incident. My normal procedure is to plug in the AC power source first to spin up the drive and then plug in the USB connector. Windows should find your drive and then you can work with WinMFS.

    Jason
     
  7. Nov 17, 2008 #67 of 105
    nigebj

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    Presumably Deskstar 1TB, not Cinemastar ?? I'm keen to find someone with personal experience of the Hitachi Cinemastar line.

    (later) That said, looking into the drives it seems that the 7K1000.B drives only just came out - and I can't find one to buy anyway (lots of the first gen. ones out there).
     
  8. Nov 17, 2008 #68 of 105
    AquaX

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    Correct, Deskstar. I should have clarified, as a TiVo forum is much more likely to have users with either DVR optimized drives or standard desktop fare.
     
  9. Nov 17, 2008 #69 of 105
    bareyb

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    I'll be installing the 1 TB Cinemastar (the model listed in the FAQ) in my series 3 tomorrow. I'm using a Deskstar in my other Series 3 and I couldn't be happier. It's barely audible unless you put your ear right up to the case. My menus have never been snappier and it seems to be humming along quite happily. No increase in internal temperature over the original 250 Gig drive.
     
  10. Nov 17, 2008 #70 of 105
    bareyb

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    Works for me. I think the old "shut down" instructions were from a time when Hard Drives weren't "hot pluggable" as they are with USB. Such as in the old SCSI days. Now talk about some LOUD drives... I had 4 Gig Barracuda (cost $1400.00) you could hear from the next room. Those were the days. :p
     
  11. Nov 18, 2008 #71 of 105
    nigebj

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    Or may be 14" platters on the IBM systems of the 60's and 70's ... before any normal mortal had to worry about gigabytes :)
     
  12. Nov 22, 2008 #72 of 105
    HomieG

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    Any other reviews about the Samsung HD103UI in the Series 3 HD TiVo?
     
  13. Nov 22, 2008 #73 of 105
    jensonw

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    Basically, your mileage may vary. It's a good, quiet drive, but some have had a problem on hard boot that is a show-stopper for me. Like others on this thread, I will be looking at other solutions. Anyone have experience with the Western Digital WDGWD10EADS?

    http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Western Digital/WD10EADS/
     
  14. Nov 22, 2008 #74 of 105
    drey

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    From what I understand, the "gray" screen was only on a very first initial boot. After that, it works. So I doubt it's a show stopper for Series 3.
     
  15. Nov 22, 2008 #75 of 105
    jlib

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    The EADS is basically the same as the EACS but with a 32MB cache instead of 16MB. For the low demands of the TiVo there would be no performance difference. TiVo uses an 8MB cache drive from the WD AV Green series in the TiVo XL. So, don't pay a premium for more cache for TiVO use. It won't make any difference.
     
  16. Nov 22, 2008 #76 of 105
    bareyb

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    Meant to get back here too. I already did a pretty extensive report on this over in the eSATA FAQ but suffice to say, I'm thrilled with the performance of my new Cinemastar 1 TB drive. My S3 feels like a new machine. Much more responsive and the menus are faster than ever. Great drive. WINMFS is fantastic and very easy to use. Kudos to Spike for such great work there. The whole thing went without a hitch and I couldn't be happier to have only one drive in use per TiVo. It runs very quietly now at night when I'm trying to keep the noise levels down. All in all a great success. I couldn't be happier. :)
     
  17. Nov 22, 2008 #77 of 105
    nigebj

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    Good to hear! Out of interest is this the 7K1000 or 7K1000.B Cinemastar ?? Still working out what I will replace the Spinpoint with - it's definitely got to go though! I simply cannot cope with three recording streams (Dual tuner plus transfer) and playback. Seems fine when the drive is not under load - but with a single machine instead of two, it's going to be underload more often than not ...
     
  18. Nov 22, 2008 #78 of 105
    buddhawood

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    I have had one running as a internal upgrade for a S3 for about 4 weeks and never had ANY problems booted right up the first time.
    I am also running one as a ESATA with a MX1 enclosure on another S3 for about three weeks and once again NO problems.
    BTW the Samsung is $95 delivered from Newegg this weekend I will update my first post.
     
  19. Nov 22, 2008 #79 of 105
    bareyb

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    I couldn't find any of the .b models for a reasonable price or I may have considered one. Even if I had found one, I'm not sure I wanted to be the first one to try it in a series 3. You never know for sure if something is going to work well until you try it. ;)
     
  20. Nov 27, 2008 #80 of 105
    drey

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    Just to confirm, I received Samsung HD103UI , installed it in in my Series 3 TiVo (original S3 silver, not an HD or HD XL) after copying contents from my old drive and TiVo booted right up. No problems at all.
     

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