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  1. tommiet

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    Welcome to the family... Your pre-roll ads are free with your service! VOD is doa with TiVo so you will need to find an alternate way of access your cable companies VOD. My cable company has a free app for the TV to access VOD.

    Best of luck with your new toys!
     
  2. Deuga

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    Good points. I really thought the lack of VOD would be a deal killer with my wife. I use VOD maybe once to twice in a year. My reaction was, Meh. My wife shrugged and said she never uses VOD anymore. VOD is nothing lost.

    When I first heard about the insufferable pre-roll ads on this forum I was imagining 5 minutes of ads. As I understand it the pre-roll ads are a single ad of no more than 30 seconds. Some are as short as 6 seconds. I spend more time than that now mucking around trying to skip over ads manually over the course of a 3 hour football game (if there are ever football games anytime soon). Accidentally overshooting the ad, rewinding back and forth, etc. If a 30 second pre-roll ad is the most agonizing part of my day I'll be doing fine. Having said that, I can appreciate the perspective that if I owned a Roamio and didn't have to deal with them now I'd probably be bothered by it too. Tivo should have a grandfathered loyalty exception. Either that or let you pay a little extra to avoid them forever.

    There are a wide variety of ways to watch TV. I think how each of us want do that are critical in the choices we make.
     
  3. mdavej

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    Incorrect. Channel numbers work fine on both. Same Android TV app, same features. NOW works fine on the Osprey box. I ran it for nearly 2 years.
     
  4. chiguy50

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    I agree. I can't think of any good reason to give up on my TE3 Roamio Pro until it gives up on me. :D

    I would caution any prospective new TiVo consumer to take your caveat with a grain of salt given the likely time frame involved.

    For one thing, Comcast has long since abandoned using EPON for any new construction/rebuild projects. But, more importantly, I think their trajectory to nationwide IPTV-only transmission is going to be long enough that by that time HDD DVR's may well be a thing of the past.;)
     
  5. bofis

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    It would have been fun if the Edge upgraded the entire OS to Android apps, but I still am VERY tempted by the $350 off lifetime service deal. I have an original Bolt with a 3TB drive that will fail one day, if not soon as I've had a few reboots, but it otherwise works. Only issue is Prime and Hulu apps crashing it...so having a faster system would be nice.

    My research seems to say that the Edge can fit a 15mm high drive if you leave the rf shielding off (which is not necessary anyway) and there are at least 4TB PMR HDDs from Toshiba (and maybe Seagate?) so that would be my plan. Certainly end up saving in the long run vs. paying $150 a year for my Bolt service...and what if this is the final TiVo with cableCARD support?

    One question though, I guess the Bolt just stays under its current service agreement through next March?
     
  6. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

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    I think most of the 4K content available on a Tivo is through streaming. Not sure it's worth the cost to upgrade to an Edge for streaming.
     
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  7. JoeKustra

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    Another option, but not as pretty. Change one of your pros to TE4. Then buy a Mini Vox and use it's 4k output. Sound strange, but I did it after buying a used Roamio. The TE4 Roamio holds files but its main purpose is to be a host for the Mini. I can still access all the content from my other TE3 Roamio units.

    update: Thinking about it, all 4k is streaming anyhow. So a Mini VOX, running TE3, can still use your pro. No voice.
     
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  8. thehepcat

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    it's been in my cart for two weeks now. debate it every night because my Roamio is having ever increasing SDV issues.
     
  9. bofis

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    So I finally tried to check out last night, but the site acts like it can't verify my address...so now I need to call them:
    [​IMG]
     
  10. cwoody222

    cwoody222 Well-Known Member

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    SDV issues? With a tuning adapter?

    Your issues are likely from an improperly configured account on your cable company’s end.

    That won’t be solved by new hardware.
     
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  11. Captain Joy

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    My wife has a TiVo BOLT, and I was content with that. Then I saw the deal for the TiVo EDGE with All-In service. I couldn’t resist. Now we each have a TiVo dutifully delivering content optimized for our individual proclivities. I just hope Xfinity doesn’t do anything to hose TiVo’s in the next few years.
     
  12. pj1983

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    Oops.
     
  13. Captain Joy

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    How many years do you think we have, pj1983?
     
  14. mattyro7878

    mattyro7878 Well-Known Member

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    How will tivo respond when you buy a new Edge and your cable company says "no go" when you ask for a cablecard??
     
  15. NashGuy

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    We don't know the timeframe but I saw an internal Comcast presentation from a few years back that was projecting that they'd have dumped QAM and gone all-IPTV within a few years. And then there was this story about Comcast going all-IP bythe end of 2017. Neither of those projections panned out. So no, we don't know when exactly it will happen, but at this point, I'd say it's a bit overdue.

    Saw today a slide from a recent presentation by Cox outlining their network plans for the next few years. Looks like they're planning to shut down QAM and go all-IPTV about 2-3 years from now. I'd be pretty surprised if Comcast doesn't get there before them.

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  16. pj1983

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    I have no idea, really. Smarter people than me are discussing possible outcomes in this thread and a couple of others. Based on my previous experience with Comcast I would expect them to take the course of action that maximizes customer inconvenience and their profits in the shortest amount of time.
     
  17. Captain Joy

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    Cable + TiVo = the golden era of TV. I will mourn its passing.
     
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  18. chiguy50

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    I would second this sentiment, but then we just don't know how good the "next great thing" will be. The world may be going to hell in a handbasket, but A/V and consumer electronics technology keeps getting better!:D
     
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  19. chiguy50

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    I concur in your guesstimation of two to three years for the IPTV changeover at Comcast (I've got some feelers out asking for background on their plans for continuing CableCARD support).

    Bear in mind that Simple & Easy was pitched almost two years ago and yet only one of the three divisions has managed to implement it to date. And that's little more than a simple change in billing procedures.
     
  20. NashGuy

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    Yeah, dumping QAM and going all-IP would be more akin to Comcast's switchover from MPEG-2 to MPEG-4 or their rollout of D3.1. It's a technical system change that involves some amount of CPE swap-outs. But not a herculean effort at this point, given the existing IPTV distribution system in place and the penetration of IPTV-capable CPE already in use.

    Let us know what you hear about continuing CC support. I actually would be a little surprised to see Comcast downgrade their current level of support for CC as long as they still offer QAM-based TV.
     

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