Sabrina could be a better option.

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  1. JOSHSKORN

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    I can also confirm this. The Ethernet port did not work, which was the main point of getting this hub. Everything else (USB devices) worked.

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  2. Niners

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    Walnut...
    If you are looking for only USB A ports this USB C hub has 3 USB 3.0 ports and works with the CCGTV. Currently on sale for under $10 for Prime Day:
    VANMASS USB C Hub, USB C to USB Adapter with Type C 3.1 Power Delivery, 3 USB 3.0 Ports

    Although this hub does not have an embedded Ethernet port if you have a USB Ethernet adapter you could try a USB Ethernet adapter with this hub.
     
  3. Niners

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    Walnut...
    fyi there is a new software update available for the CCGTV
    • SW upgrade to 200917.005 - Incremental update (56.08 MB, restart required)
    • Remote firmware update from 23.8 to 23.9
    To start the download process, tap your profile image and then Settings. Goto:
    System > About > System update. The Chromecast with Google TV will then “check for update.”
     
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  4. JOSHSKORN

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    OK this post was too long so I deleted it and decided to start over.

    Here's the hookup I'm staying with for my Chromecast:
    The Hub does not come with a charging cable so you must buy a cable and charger. As far as the keyboard is concerned, it doesn't light up very well (hard to see in the dark), I'm not very happy with it. Plus, it's not only hard to type on. I might try something else. This setup is wired via the Ethernet port on the hub I purchased.

    I also purchased two WD_Black 5TB P10 Game Drive, Portable External Hard Drives. Initially, I was going to attach one to my Chromecast and the other to my ASUS RT-AC87U router and have a script running on my router to back the two up, but I couldn't find a reliable way to get the Chromecast to read an NTFS partition. There were apps that claimed they work, but not for me, or they might've recognized them while in that specific app only, which is virtually useless.

    Using VLC, did manage to connect to the 5TB hard drive that is currently connected to my router and I was able to play a blu-ray that I had ripped with Handbrake. Picture quality was great.

    I actually initially had problems connecting the drive to my router. Eventually, I had to convert the drive to GPT, Quick Format using NTFS and just plug it in, without using the router's Format and Health Check options.

    New Plan (for both of the portable drives I bought):
    I ordered a USB 3.0 Hub, to which I plan on plugging into my router. I'll then move the portable drives to the slots on the hub. I'll then use a script on my router to Copy one USB drive to the other USB drive. I'm actually still figuring that part out, as I just installed ASUS-Merlin on this this past weekend and know nothing about how to get scripts working on it, but I've heard it's possible. I'll update this comment when finished.

    Things I've got to do:
    • Install USB 3.0 Hub on Router (when received) and the two portable drives and make a script to copy one to the other.
    • Find two user-friendly apps that'll connect to a fixed folder on the network, one to play movies, one to play music.
     
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  5. Niners

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    Walnut...

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    I've tested and confirmed that these additional two USB C hubs work with the CCGTV for wired Ethernet and FAT32 storage:

    Dockteck 4 in 1: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YFD9NPN
    QGeeM 8 in 1: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07XKRGQQ2
     
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  6. Alex_7

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    Can you confirm that the Ethernet does work with the chromecast?
     
  7. brotony

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    I took a look at your keyboard and looked for alternatives. I don't have the Chromecast with GTV but found this kb remote with voice button, backlight, air mouse and dial side with face down button cancellation interesting.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FFRXM41/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fab_grgIFbE99JHQZ

    I'd be interested to know if it works well with this Chromecast. I may get one anyway to try with my PC.

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  8. dbpaddler

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    So mad. I ordered the blue from Google not realizing it wouldn't ship until December. Hopped on chat and they gave me another $10 off code so I thought I had a white one in my cart, and I placed the order. Realized after the fact it was blue again. Doh! Now I have two coming in December for $40. I'm good with the TS4k's and one Sabrina. Only have a projector that's 4k, and the TS4k has been working fine with it. Everything else is 1080. Not going to push my luck with them on a 3rd go around.

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  9. aaronwt

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    I'm waiting until Black Friday week to pick up a second Chromecast with Google TV. When they will hopefully be on sale. But I have been pleased with the launch one I got from best buy.
     
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  10. Niners

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    Walnut...
    Confirmed that this VANMASS USB C Hub with 3 USB 3.0 Ports with only USB A ports works with the CCGTV and some Ethernet adapters.

    I've tested two Ethernet adapters with this hub and both worked. One was a Lenovo Model U2L100P-Y1 10/100 USB 2.0 Ethernet adapter and the other was a Techkey USB C GB Ethernet adapter (used on this hub's USB 3.0 port with a USB A to USB C adapter). Also confirmed that FAT32 storage is recognized.

    This Vanmass USB C hub is no longer on sale so at it's current price there are better deals for USB C hubs with an embedded GB Ethernet port such as this $20 Utaxo USB C hub that I had previously posted about (in post #282 on 10/1).
     
  11. dbpaddler

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    What you do is put them all on your wish list and wait. Within the next month you'll most likely get a notification about a deal on one.

    Also, many of these are exactly the same as others with a different name. So look for the same body and find the cheapest price. Once in a while thays not the case, but a majority of the time it is.

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  12. Alex_7

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    Problem with that is as time passes some models change drivers that no longer support Ethernet port or other ports.
     
  13. Niners

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    Walnut...
    There were some deals earlier this week on Prime day as I purchased the QGeeM 8 in 1 for $18.69 and it is currently $33, the Dockteck 4 in 1 purchased for $24 is currently $30 and the VANMASS USB C Hub (no embedded Ethernet) purchased for $9.48 is currently $20.

    There will likely be similar deals for USB C hubs during next month's Black Friday sales but if you want to get one now the $20 Utaxo USB C hub is currently the lowest priced USB C hub (with embedded Ethernet) that I have confirmed works with the CCGTV.

    btw if anyone is looking for a iPad Pro USB C Hub that has 4K@60hz I got the Dockteck 4 in 1 for my iPad Pro 2018 and it does support 4K@60hz HDMI with the iPad Pro 2018. I tested it with the CCGTV and it works with the CCGTV but I am using this Dockteck hub with my iPad Pro 2018.
     
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  14. dbpaddler

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    If anyone was a chromecast audio fan and would like to use their speaker setup for audio only and no TV, pick up an HDMI audio extractor and use the toslink or 3.5 out to go to your amp. You can either do all audio through the toslink (not recommended if you are doing more than DD) or just have the toslink to an audio only input and continue with hdmi for your video/audio.

    For me, my amp only does DD, so I just did toslink to it and sent the hdmi to the TV. The TV is a complete dumb display so all my audio goes through toslink to the amp. But now I can use the TS4k for audio only without having the TV on.

    Should work the same way with Sabrina too, but I rarely do audio only in the theater room.

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  15. markp99

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    Sorry, nothing to offer you on your question, but can commiserate the DD-only support on my Sonos system. I too use the TOS Link between my TV and my Amp (Sonos). I love my Sonos system, especially with Plex that handles any transcoding, but I hate this constraint. As I have read, was a conscious decision to avoid licensing fees.
     
  16. dbpaddler

    dbpaddler Well-Known Member

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    Actually wasn't a question Just stating a way to get more functionality for audio only since Google dissed the chromecast audio.

    And I ditched Sonos for me and any installs I did when the CCAudio came out. Wth the digital output and higher bit rate and the ability to take advantage of current speaker setups, it was a no brainer. The CCA was a ton cheaper than a Sonos Connect, not to mention smaller. Replacing 6 connects with 6 cca's powered by a USB hub is so much nicer with a multi channel distribution amp for whole home audio.

    I gutted a 50's stereo console with a new sub and mid/tweeters with digital amps and a CCA. Sounds phenomenal and looks awesome in my front hall. Have three in walls for 3ch Dolby Digital on my living room TV with a wireless sub and got back my audio ability with the hdmi audio extractor. And have the same amp setup in the bedroom with an Atlantic tech passive sound bar and sub. The best Sonos speaker doesn't compare unless you added the sub, and even without the sub would be more expensive than any of those setups.

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  17. dbpaddler

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    Not feeling the Sabrina love. Below continue watching you're stuck with "Trending on Google which for me is over 50% paid content I'm not subscribed to.

    I'm stuck with YouTube recommendations even though I deleted the YouTube app. I suppose I could uninsta updates and see if that starts is from scratch.

    But I don't like I have almost no control over what's on that home screen and at the top or with minimal scrolling is a vast majority of paid unsubscribed content.

    There are no rows for specific apps. Too much recommended content from apps I don't use. HBO Max dominates the trending. I bet HBO paid for that placement.

    I might end up canceling my orders for two more and stick with the TS4k at this rate. With the older Android version you get more maneuverability of the rows. And the remote is much better for live TV.

    The Google tv screen does look nice, and the recommendations for genre specific content based off of what I watch is nice. But that's all buried.

    The watch list and ability to utilize a phone app doesn't really do it for me.

    How are you guys liking it so many weeks in?

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  18. krkaufman

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    Waaaay too much noise on the Home screen for my purposes ... as a replacement streamer for my 83-year-old mom ... plus critical app issues (no britbox; slow, ugly VUDU) ... have compelled me to switch it to app-only mode and keep installed just the few apps not available on her Roku (which she’ll now be keeping).
     
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  19. rczrider

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    Agreed, which is why I did the:
    It's still one giant rotating ad up top and app-only mode seems a bit...bland?...but in my experience it's still less buggy than the TS4K and cost less than half at $20 (after Netflix credit).

    I might feel differently if I actually wanted TiVo or Google to do a deep dive into my viewing habits and save me a couple of button pushes to watch the next episode of whatever it is I was watching, but I don't find said button pushes so onerous that I want to trade for the bugginess of the TS4K or the obnoxious billboard feel of Sabrina. In fact, I am surprised so many people have so much free time to stare at their TVs that they need recommendations for more to watch.

    My needs are simple. I've been mocked on this forum for having a "budget" $1k TV and 2.1 sound setup; OTA TV with the live-pause / commercial skipping built into my budget TV, free YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, and Prime give me more than enough to watch. All things considered, the $50 TS4K would have been good enough if I didn't know any better, but the $20 Chromecast with Google TV is a good value even with the trade-offs.
     
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  20. Alex_7

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    Google should’ve just bought Reelgood or JustWatch if they wanted to get into the steaming integration. Then release Google TV as an app to download on android tv devices.
     
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